Something just ain’t right about that semifinal vote. The icon of American running beaten by an Olympic bronze medalist? By that logic Rick Wolhuter is the greatest American male runner. It smells of Russian bots. If the Brojos won’t have a revote we must exercise our great American right of protest.
I VOTE FOR JOAN BENOIT ????????????????????????????????????
My vote is for Boston Joanie.
Why do they say Joan had more votes but lost? How does that makes sense? Did they mean total votes through all rounds but less in the matchup round than Jenny?
Hounddogharrier wrote:
Something just ain’t right about that semifinal vote. The icon of American running beaten by an Olympic bronze medalist? By that logic Rick Wolhuter is the greatest American male runner. It smells of Russian bots. If the Brojos won’t have a revote we must exercise our great American right of protest.
I VOTE FOR JOAN BENOIT ????????????????????????????????????
I protest your protest. Benoit Samuelson is an icon based on what she did when she did it, but Jenny Simpson had the better career. Indisputable. What you conveniently left out is that Simpson won a Gold medal at the World Championships as well as two silvers and a bronze. She also won a truckload of national track championships and then of course three NCAA titles in college. Simpson was better.
I think Joan should have won!
#1Her times are historically fast.
#2. She was so much better than her competition during that era.
#3. She ran those times in the 1980's. Title 9 happened in 1972 and ushered in the womens sport movement. There were still people around that thought women couldn't run a marathon in the 1980's. Running fast times in that cultural zeitgeist is way harder. She pioneered fast running and that is way harder. Jennie Simpson is good but she is standing on the shoulders of giants who started the womens running movement.
#4. She didn't have a advanced understanding of exercise physiology. Sport science has gotten radically better and every athlete has improved. Running is still running, but modern injury prevention, training and recovery is just better than back then. It's easier to run fast wihout injury now.
#5. She is still fast as hell and running well in her 60's! She has a clear love of the sport.
#6. I read her memoir. She has a section on how she never lost her period while training, which means she always maintained a health calorie balance. She seemed to intuitively eat healthy in a way that supported her body. That is incredible. She seemed to intuitively understand nutrition in ways that most athletes today don't.
#7. She trained in Maine during the winter. That is hard AF.
#8. SHE WON OLYMPIC GOLD!
You guys all had the same chance to vote for either woman, and that is how this process works.
Shouldn't be allowed my dad said so wrote:
Why do they say Joan had more votes but lost? How does that makes sense? Did they mean total votes through all rounds but less in the matchup round than Jenny?
Electoral college, get rid if it.
xcskier66 wrote:
#2. She was so much better than her competition during that era.
#5. She is still fast as hell and running well in her 60's! She has a clear love of the sport.
#6. I read her memoir. She has a section on how she never lost her period while training, which means she always maintained a health calorie balance. She seemed to intuitively eat healthy in a way that supported her body. That is incredible. She seemed to intuitively understand nutrition in ways that most athletes today don't.
#7. She trained in Maine during the winter. That is hard AF.
I couldn't let this go.
#2 that era was terrible
#5 her 2:50 marathon at age 60 is impressive but guess what? It's still a 2:50 marathon.
#6 you actually thought "getting a period" was a valid reason she should be the greatest of all time? Have you looked into other athlete's cycles? Are you asserting that Joannie is the only woman to ever run fast and get a period? Am I having a stroke?
#7 Jenny Simpson trains in Colorado, I hear there's some snow (and altitude) there as well.
They're BOTH incredible runners, but letsrun has spoken.
It is as obvious as the nose on your face. Joan was world class from 1979 until 1991. She changed the course of women’s distance running in the USA. No 1984 Olympic marathon win we would still be in the Katharine Switzer days discussing if women should run. WAKE UP!
Hounddogharrier wrote:
Something just ain’t right about that semifinal vote. The icon of American running beaten by an Olympic bronze medalist? By that logic Rick Wolhuter is the greatest American male runner. It smells of Russian bots. If the Brojos won’t have a revote we must exercise our great American right of protest.
I VOTE FOR JOAN BENOIT ????????????????????????????????????
We are a nation of laws. Law and order. Jenny won fair and square, no matter what Commie Troll Rojo has to say about it
When both names are googled by high school boys, which one is more attractive? That will be your winner.
First Joanie is a media whore. She loves the spot light and always announces stuff. Second, she ran and supported Lance Armstrong and has never rebuked him.
Joanie did help create an iconic race though.
However, Jenny was a world class athlete at 2 different events. Think about that. she was a world class steepler...then mid career switched to the 1500. It was totally different skill set.
She went to the Olympics in Both. That fact is routinely underplayed by the pro-Joanie crowd. She basically did on event and did it very well, but Joanie didn't have to race the east African.
Jennie didnt have to race the east Germans and Soviets.
xcskier66 wrote:
#3. She ran those times in the 1980's. Title 9 happened in 1972 and ushered in the womens sport movement. There were still people around that thought women couldn't run a marathon in the 1980's. Running fast times in that cultural zeitgeist is way harder. She pioneered fast running and that is way harder. Jennie Simpson is good but she is standing on the shoulders of giants who started the womens running movement.
You forget that Jennie first ran in an event that people didn't think women could do. The 3000M Steeple chase. She literally pioneered women's participation in that single event. Ran in the FIRST olympics that had the 3000M for women. Help create a generation of great women steeplers.
Jenny is standing on the shoulders of No One for that.
Most of the voters were not alive while Joan was dominating. They wouldn't have known who she was a month ago.
older not wiser wrote:
Most of the voters were not alive while Joan was dominating. They wouldn't have known who she was a month ago.
Jenny won. Get over it. Move on
Much as I admire both Deena & Jenny, something seemed wrong that those were my two choices for women's GOAT. Has to be JOanie.
1955 wrote:
Much as I admire both Deena & Jenny, something seemed wrong that those were my two choices for women's GOAT. Has to be JOanie.
Jenny won. Get over it
older not wiser wrote:
Most of the voters were not alive while Joan was dominating. They wouldn't have known who she was a month ago.
No but she's a media whore who continues to do running stunts...so it's not like she's ever gone away
This.. .. it’s no contest but the voters visions are limited. We cannot fault them for their lack of knowledge as they can only go by today’s era of media coverage. That said ,Joan Benoit Samuelson by a landslide in any normal jurisdiction.. fait accompli.. !!