donuts wrote:
Sweden:
10 million population
11,927 coronavirus cases
growth rate in cases 6% per day in the past week
1,203 deaths
114 new deaths yesterday, 170 new deaths today so far
schools open
gatherings up to 50 people
Taiwan
23 million population
395 coronavirus cases total
0 new cases yesterday
6 deaths total
schools open
gatherings up to 100 people indoors OK
shops, banks, office complexes open
pro baseball season and basketball season open (no spectators)
Taiwan average temperature in January/February 55-64 degrees F
Sweden 22-32 degrees F
I love how you posted a link to the US travel ban on most foreign nationals travelling from Europe as your way of winning the argument. Maybe try a more relevant link!
Precious Roy wrote:
This is fun. Now the right wing nutjobs are praising Sweden as an example of a country that respects freedom. Miht want to take a look at the tax burden in Sweden and the cradle to grave social programs. And for religious right wing nutjobs, here is a fun fact: home schooling is against the law in Sweden.
"home schooling is aginst the law in Sweden"
Were did you get that from ? Our university and senior high schools were closed for some weeks and the students got education threw internet online. And when students of some valid reason needs home schooling they can get it .
And when it comes to our freedom and tax burden we are free to decide if we will start a private business and can get a lot of help by the state with this, or we can decide to work as employees in a private company or municipal job . The tax burden is there ( about 30 %) , but for that we get free school , free medical care and a lot of other things that people need for a good life in a society. And we are free in most other ways. And now when we have the corona crisis we have to take from the taxes to support all activities, both municipal and private. Where from do you think we could get these big amonts of money in this crisis if we didn`t have our tax system?? Sweden is of course not paradise on earth but we have real freedom and a very good society compared to most other countries.
- The Magic Swede -
Precious Roy wrote:
This is fun. Now the right wing nutjobs are praising Sweden as an example of a country that respects freedom. Miht want to take a look at the tax burden in Sweden and the cradle to grave social programs. And for religious right wing nutjobs, here is a fun fact: home schooling is against the law in Sweden.
Exactly. Just search Sweden on LRC and a trove of posts will come up describing how it's a cesspool of socialism and immigration gone wrong. Some usernames can probably be matched. I'm sure their IP addresses would!
Giles Corey wrote:
https://thepointsguy.com/guide/european-restrictions-coronavirus/
Fake news. Are you some sheep that believes everything the media tells you?
Don't you know that they are lying to you.
Sweden shows the lockdown makes no difference!
so WHO demands they lock down to try and protect their false narrative.
Covid Doomsday Cult Said Sweden Would Be Drowning in Bodies. It’s Doing Better Than Lockdown Britain
therminator88 wrote:
Why are you lying? Those 114 deaths was for the whole easter holidays.
here are the only true and official numbers:
https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/09f821667ce64bf7be6f9f87457ed9aa
Not lying. Using the worldometers site, which cites what you cite. I can't make sense of that Swedish GIS site. A scan of other sites like bing/covid, John Hopkins, ncov.dxy.cn, and the actual news reporting also shows 114 and 170 for yesterday and today.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8221719/Sweden-reports-record-170-new-coronavirus-deaths.htmljesseriley wrote:
If you don’t keep your kids in Sweden’s virus-infected schools, they threaten to report you to Social Services (first step to removing them from parents).
Schools are always virus infected, and every country with mandatory education will report parents for not educating their kids. Only difference is some of those countries are pretending an epic plague is happening and the Swedes are not.
It's kind of ironic that the country to rebel is the same one that decided to eliminate gender pronouns from its language. And that decision was also ironic in that the SJW trend that inspired it ended up increasing the number of gender pronouns instead.
YMMV wrote:
Finland is also not on lockdown and is doing the best of all the Nordic countries: a mere 13/M v. 28/M for Norway, 53/M for Denmark and 119/M for Sweden. Germany stands at 45 for reference, USA is 86. Finland is renown for it's use of the sauna.
^ those figures are deaths/million
Belarus, absolutely no restrictions and only 4/M!
It is kinda weird those with no lockdowns are doing fine. Maybe there's a self fulfilling prophecy, that they may lockdown if they start to get worse, but it's interesting to see.
There's been a lot of extra deaths and economies tanking, killing more people due to the overreaction.
jesseriley wrote:
Swedes are free
hey, you accidentally said something true!
YMMV wrote:
Finland is also not on lockdown and is doing the best of all the Nordic countries: a mere 13/M v. 28/M for Norway, 53/M for Denmark and 119/M for Sweden. Germany stands at 45 for reference, USA is 86. Finland is renown for it's use of the sauna.
Sweden now has 11,927 cases off a population of ~10 million. 119/M would give ~ 1190.
You're off by a factor of 10!
Allen53 wrote:
Covid Doomsday Cult Said Sweden Would Be Drowning in Bodies. It’s Doing Better Than Lockdown Britain
An article by a guy who is a county administrator in Ohio and posts blogs in his spare time.
Excellent source, Allen. You are not at all a sheep, believing everything you read.
Well...... wrote:
It is kinda weird those with no lockdowns are doing fine. Maybe there's a self fulfilling prophecy, that they may lockdown if they start to get worse, but it's interesting to see.
There's been a lot of extra deaths and economies tanking, killing more people due to the overreaction.
Countries and areas of low population density (are unsurprisingly to people with at least a semi-functional brain) doing better than those with high population density.
Sweden is doing poorly compared to similar nations.
had promise but is painfully lacking in all of the key elements that made similar threads great
Making up numbers, eh? wrote:
YMMV wrote:
Taiwan :
1) An island
2) Slammed the door on mainland China travel before everyone else
They quarantined their entire society from the contagion which is CCP
The U.K. is an island and their numbers have been awful.
Perhaps that is due to UKs lovely diversity programs?
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