The NCAA just banned even virtual workouts. According to source, NCAA has just ruled teams can not host online workouts at this time. This includes coaches are not allowed to coach athletes through video sources such as Zoom or Google Hangout. A fair decision? Or just outright irrational?
[https://spectrumlocalnews.com/nys/watertown/sports/2020/04/14/ncaa-bans-virtual-workouts-moving-forward](https://spectrumlocalnews.com/nys/watertown/sports/2020/04/14/ncaa-bans-virtual-workouts-moving-forward)
NCAA JUST BANNED VIRTUAL WORKOUTS
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Doesn't sound like the worst decision ever.
https://twitter.com/TheRealJKJ/status/1249874354814562304?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1249879951689596929&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fspectrumlocalnews.com%2Fnys%2Fcentral-ny%2Fsports%2F2020%2F04%2F14%2Fncaa-bans-virtual-workouts-moving-forward -
This is unfair and irrational. Communication with coaches and teammates would help keep athletes grounded in this time. Young people need a sense of stability more than older folks in the workforce. This ban on virtual workouts has nothing to do with corona virus, but is some the result of some small minded person who gets their jollies when they exercise power to hurt others.
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Kvothe wrote:
This is unfair and irrational. Communication with coaches and teammates would help keep athletes grounded in this time. Young people need a sense of stability more than older folks in the workforce. This ban on virtual workouts has nothing to do with corona virus, but is some the result of some small minded person who gets their jollies when they exercise power to hurt others.
My guess the reason for this is no one (NCAA, schools, or athletic departments) wants to be liable should something go wrong... even if the chance of something going wrong is remote.
Also, coaches are still allowed to have zoom meetings with the team just no workouts... so communication is allowed.
Lots of rule changes.... it's like darts being thrown at the wall... all reaction...not much proactivity. -
With what going wrong?
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Link in the op doesn't work. Is this another overreaction to spreading a virus or the typical NCAA overreaction out of fear of some coaches over working athletes or some schools being disadvantaged?
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It’s the ncaa what did you expect
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here's why.... wrote:
Kvothe wrote:
This is unfair and irrational. Communication with coaches and teammates would help keep athletes grounded in this time. Young people need a sense of stability more than older folks in the workforce. This ban on virtual workouts has nothing to do with corona virus, but is some the result of some small minded person who gets their jollies when they exercise power to hurt others.
My guess the reason for this is no one (NCAA, schools, or athletic departments) wants to be liable should something go wrong... even if the chance of something going wrong is remote.
Also, coaches are still allowed to have zoom meetings with the team just no workouts... so communication is allowed.
Lots of rule changes.... it's like darts being thrown at the wall... all reaction...not much proactivity.
How about when something goes wrong because athletes don't have a coach's guidance. Guess the NCAA doesn't have to feel responsible for that. -
predictor wrote:
With what going wrong?
You're conducting a virtual workout. A student sprains an ankle, or has a seizure--no school trainer there. HUGE liability. -
Sunday XC workout consists of coach driving kids out 18 miles on a gravel road and drives back to school and waits 2 hours. Seizure? No trainer or coach present. Dead kid.
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lease wrote:
predictor wrote:
With what going wrong?
You're conducting a virtual workout. A student sprains an ankle, or has a seizure--no school trainer there. HUGE liability.
I really don't see where liability is coming from. You technically have duty, but how has the duty been breached by hosting a virtual workout? You have cause-in-fact, but where is the proximate cause? Yeah, there's no trainer there, but here's the thing: you CAN'T have a trainer there. If a kid gets hurt, there's absolutely nothing the coaches or schools could do to help. How could they be negligent in providing medical care when they can't even be in the same place?
Unless you're suggesting that hosting a remote workout is negligent in and of itself. -
I guess they want scholar-athletes and school is closed.
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Runner10287 wrote:
Link in the op doesn't work. Is this another overreaction to spreading a virus or the typical NCAA overreaction out of fear of some coaches over working athletes or some schools being disadvantaged?
My guess it has more to do with disadvantaged schools and athletes than liability. We can't have teams getting an unfair advantage because some coaches and athletes are willing to stretch and bend the rules. -
Kvothe wrote:
here's why.... wrote:
Kvothe wrote:
This is unfair and irrational. Communication with coaches and teammates would help keep athletes grounded in this time. Young people need a sense of stability more than older folks in the workforce. This ban on virtual workouts has nothing to do with corona virus, but is some the result of some small minded person who gets their jollies when they exercise power to hurt others.
My guess the reason for this is no one (NCAA, schools, or athletic departments) wants to be liable should something go wrong... even if the chance of something going wrong is remote.
Also, coaches are still allowed to have zoom meetings with the team just no workouts... so communication is allowed.
Lots of rule changes.... it's like darts being thrown at the wall... all reaction...not much proactivity.
How about when something goes wrong because athletes don't have a coach's guidance. Guess the NCAA doesn't have to feel responsible for that.
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The Starved Elephant wrote:
lease wrote:
predictor wrote:
With what going wrong?
You're conducting a virtual workout. A student sprains an ankle, or has a seizure--no school trainer there. HUGE liability.
I really don't see where liability is coming from. You technically have duty, but how has the duty been breached by hosting a virtual workout? You have cause-in-fact, but where is the proximate cause? Yeah, there's no trainer there, but here's the thing: you CAN'T have a trainer there. If a kid gets hurt, there's absolutely nothing the coaches or schools could do to help. How could they be negligent in providing medical care when they can't even be in the same place?
Unless you're suggesting that hosting a remote workout is negligent in and of itself.
If they don't have the remote workout then they are not opening themselves up to being negligent... so, yes, that's why... they don't want the potential liability... per the NCAA, all sports are now officially 'off-season'.
Not saying that's a reasonable position... it's just what they are doing. -
Doesn't matter, really, so I don't care. Just let kids enjoy running, it's an extracurricular activity.
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ozacrunning wrote:
https://spectrumlocalnews.com/nys/central-ny/sports/2020/04/14/ncaa-bans-virtual-workouts-moving-forward
The real question is why does everyone feel like they have to say "moving forward" when it's unnecessary? -
Moving backwards wrote:
ozacrunning wrote:
https://spectrumlocalnews.com/nys/central-ny/sports/2020/04/14/ncaa-bans-virtual-workouts-moving-forward
The real question is why does everyone feel like they have to say "moving forward" when it's unnecessary?
Are you saying they are redundantly moving forward with redundancy? -
predictor wrote:
Sunday XC workout consists of coach driving kids out 18 miles on a gravel road and drives back to school and waits 2 hours. Seizure? No trainer or coach present. Dead kid.
seizure? if that kid is a runner it would be bound to happen inevitably
