Germany CANNOT be reporting accurately

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The virus is racist. It seems to be disproportionately targeting certain types of people including people of African descent, people with diabetes, overweight. Also seems to be impacting Mediterranean people as well.

This seems borne out in looking at population groups in the USA. The highest percentage of illness in the USA Is in large cities and there it is disproportionately targeting African Americans. It is not targeting as heavily those of northern European descent, with areas like WI, MN, Iowa, not hit hard at all.

a high school coach wrote:

That's what happens when you elect a quantum chemist to lead the country. Elect a bozo reality tv host, and you'll get what the U.S.A. currently has, which is a virus free-for-all.

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Also: variation in death-per-case rates across countries is most likely primarily driven by differences in testing, and not differences in treatment.

Of course, testing is hugely important. The more you test, the higher the fraction of cases you detect, the easier to quarantine those possibly affected, the sooner you can open up the economy.

CountChocula wrote:

not a historianologist wrote:

I believe during the Black Death in the 1300s (also originated from Hubei province in China where Wuhan is!) .

Where did you see this? Most sources I've read say central Asia or Mongolia (or at least the Mongolian Empire), which could theoretically include Hubei. I did not realize that the source had been pinpointed to a particular province.

Timmy Treadwell wrote:

The virus is racist. It seems to be disproportionately targeting certain types of people including people of African descent, people with diabetes, overweight. Also seems to be impacting Mediterranean people as well.

This seems borne out in looking at population groups in the USA. The highest percentage of illness in the USA Is in large cities and there it is disproportionately targeting African Americans. It is not targeting as heavily those of northern European descent, with areas like WI, MN, Iowa, not hit hard at all.

It's not targeting people of African descent, it's targeting people who are poor. People who are poor are more likely to have a host of other chronic health conditions. If it's targeting people of African descent why is it only targeting those people the US but not in Africa?

I believe Germany went full martial law without sugar coating it, first of the European countries.

They got on it quickly but it also isn't nearly as densely populated. Berlin's so large that its population is spread out as thinly as a Florida city.

Check out this list of European cities by population density.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_European_Union_cities_proper_by_population_density

It is chock-full of Spanish and French cities near the top, along with quite a few Italian cities not far back. German cities are way down the list. Lower density correlates well with lower COVID-19 spread. One thing about Germany's # though is that they have a low death toll relative to cases. Maybe they found more cases that wouldn't have been found by the other countries because of their systematic testing and many of those were in the young so the rate is lower? Not clear myself what they're doing.

The German people are not happy with lockdown.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XY9xApqhze8

I don't know about Wuhan, but the Black Death is thought to have been caused by plague brought from China (including intentionally throwing plague victims into a Genoese trading port, and this recurred in waves also stemming from China.

https://www.britannica.com/event/Black-Death

YMMV wrote:

The German people are not happy with lockdown.

A not permitted demonstration was shut down by the police in Berlin on Sunday. You never make everybody happy. But thanks to the fact that Germans stayed at home the lockdown will probably be loosed up at the end of this week.

Timmy Treadwell wrote:

The virus is racist. It seems to be disproportionately targeting certain types of people including people of African descent, people with diabetes, overweight. Also seems to be impacting Mediterranean people as well.

This seems borne out in looking at population groups in the USA. The highest percentage of illness in the USA Is in large cities and there it is disproportionately targeting African Americans. It is not targeting as heavily those of northern European descent, with areas like WI, MN, Iowa, not hit hard at all.

You are attempting to be humorous about serious matters. The virus is not racist. The virus is not disproportionately targeting people of African decent. Do African immigrants test as high as African Americans for corona-19 virus? I am sure medical doctors and biologist are too lazy to be able to answer that question. Do descendants of African immigrants who have been in U.S. less than five generations test at a high rate for corona-19 virus? African Americans are dying at a higher rate. Try to think like a social scientist. You know many of the reasons African Americans are dying after testing positive. African American is a social category, not a category based on critical dna threshold. You are not the only one who is not precise. Rarely do medical doctors separately track those who are descendants of African immigrants, five generations and less from African Americans who have been in U.S. app. 215 years to over 400 years. The group classified as African American tends to be less an actual racial group, but tends to be a social group.

Hardloper wrote:

somebody Someone wrote:

Also, their population isn’t as old as Italy and they were protective.

Sure it is. Median age is 46.8 in Germany vs. 45.1 in Italy. By share of the population 65+, it's 22.4% in Italy and 21.1% in Germany.

But it helps that there are fewer multi-generational households in Germany.

Much easier to keep distance from your parents or grandparents if you don't live with them.

YMMV wrote:

The German people are not happy with lockdown.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XY9xApqhze8

Of course not...it reminds them of the history of the Nazi regime. Shame on that government for not considering this.

COVID 19 is a respiratory disease. Germany has less pollution than Spain and Italy. It only follows that they would have less of a problem with a respiratory disease. An individual's health and immune system is the best defense against a virus. German's have fewer cases because they are healthier than others because they were breathing cleaner air for years.

Germans are the greatest fighters as history has proved. That is why the numbers are lower. They are a small country that can take on those much bigger. Look at Barbarossa. They nearly beat a Red Army of 11 million. Look at Manstein's Miracle for example. A small army took back Kharkov when millions of Russians were attacking. That shows how resilient and tough as fukk the Germans are.

They're covering real number of casualties like China and Russia. That's it.

Pure speculation.

I don't know how we trusted Germany after world war I. They said they wouldn't do it again , fast forward a bit and Germany tried to take over the world again .

why would you trust Germany ?

I live in AZ. My wife and I have been experiencing minor covid symptoms, and my wife went to the ER since she had some unusual effects. They did labs but did not test her because there were "no life threatening symptoms". They could tell she had a virus and said it was likely covid, but they only test those who have severe symptoms.

This is why we have such a high death rate compared to Germany and South Korea. They are only testing people with severe symptoms.

We are doing ok now and after 2 weeks we are much better.