'Horrifying' simulation reveals dangers of hobby jogging during the C virus lockdowns

What the simulation does not take into account is very rarely would a person be running in still air. Typically there are 5-15 mph winds where I live along with convective currents, which would tend to send those droplets to the side. Gravity takes them towards the ground, which is why very few actually fall on the face of the runner behind him. This is much ado about nothing. The odds of catching something like this are miniscule so long as nobody is directly sneezing in you mouth.

joedirt wrote:

What the simulation does not take into account is very rarely would a person be running in still air. Typically there are 5-15 mph winds where I live along with convective currents, which would tend to send those droplets to the side. Gravity takes them towards the ground, which is why very few actually fall on the face of the runner behind him. This is much ado about nothing. The odds of catching something like this are miniscule so long as nobody is directly sneezing in you mouth.

Ya mean like this?

Cheese and Rice wrote:

For once can the fooking media stop with click-bait BS fear-mongering headlines?

'Horrifying' simulation? Whatever...

Calling the daily mail media is a stretch. They made me turn my ad blocker off to view this and then I had large banner adds on both sides with a pop-up on the top and the bottom. This is why people have ad blockers

I don't see this as horrifying, but it is good information. It basically says that you're safe if you're running right next to them, which is how most people run when it is just 2. It gets hairy in a larger group, or in places where runners are forced to be single file. Other people have said that this is nothing too surprising and I guess that is true, but it's also not something I gave much thought to.

This simulation is ridiculous but I have to say on days when there's good weather the local park is filled with runners that would normally be at the gym instead. Yes they aren't running the same pace as I am but the road is filled and I'm within a few feet of someones back the entire time. I'd say the park has got the capacity of a road race of around 500+ people. This is including the walkers who carelessly take up the very limited road space and not including the bikers that have their own lane and yes there are far more of them than usual too. Better to stick to the roads and steer clear of the park.

ShilohDoesntCare wrote:

This simulation is ridiculous but I have to say on days when there's good weather the local park is filled with runners that would normally be at the gym instead. Yes they aren't running the same pace as I am but the road is filled and I'm within a few feet of someones back the entire time. I'd say the park has got the capacity of a road race of around 500+ people. This is including the walkers who carelessly take up the very limited road space and not including the bikers that have their own lane and yes there are far more of them than usual too. Better to stick to the roads and steer clear of the park.

Think about that test done at a large fitness gym with numerous people huffing and puffing on treadmills, exercise bikes, StairMasters, etc. Think about the germ clouds and germ residue that must coat every inch of every machine!

Joke or not, I just hope all of these new runners out there follow whatever rules are in place so that running doesn't get banned. People are out hiking in force in AZ, and there has been a big uptick in search and rescue calls because newbie hikers get out there and get in trouble. Now a lot of the popular trails are shutting down because of this.

I'm sure many of you can relate, but running is keeping me sane right now. Please, even if you don't agree with rules that are in place, just please follow them so that running isn't banned.

The real story here is that obese people and smokers are clogging the pipes of our healthcare system. Just because you are a “runner“ doesn’t mean you’re immune from this scourge. Get out there and train to run fast and lose some weight or you’re marked for death.

Why do you think that the study is ridiculous? Do you not believe the findings or do you not believe that the findings are significant?

Kenyans saying EPO being used for virus killing --- not performances.

I read the white paper linked at the end of the article. It cannot be taken seriously from an academic perspective. Although the initial formatting is that of a journal article, the rest is devoid of citations. For example, they state "The 1.5 meter distance rule announced by several governments is “very effective” for people who stand still indoors or outdoors in calm weather." They use quotation marks despite the fact that there is no good evidence I'm aware of that 1.5 or 2 metres are effective for preventing infection transmission -- these are just somewhat arbitrary distances based on what is known about how far particles spread with coughing, sneezing, etc. Given that this is the entire premise of their article, it really doesn't matter how good their model is, because for any model: "garbage in, garbage out." They don't provide any detail on their methodology so it's not possible to critique that. The whole thing reminds me of the physicist in Australia who got magnets stuck in his nose (https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/mar/30/astrophysicist-gets-magnets-stuck-up-nose-while-inventing-coronavirus-device) -- basically, bored people causing trouble trying to do something outside of their sphere of expertise. Unfortunately, this will scare a lot of people and add to the atmosphere of panic and paranoia.

So does this mean that A$$holes will finally stop one stepping on easy runs??

GettingRidiculous wrote:

I'm sorry, but this whole thing is absurd. First off, that article keeps talking about coughing or sneezing while running. Here's a question for you. When is the last time you actually coughed or sneezed WHILE running?

In February when I had some sort of flu. Was coughing and sneezing while running, twice a day.

Lerson Kal wrote:

Nobody run in front of me.

Solved. Next.

You'll run through their exhaust when you passed them going back.

corona lens wrote:

This is easily fixable. Don't run anywhere near anyone, ever. I see you, I move away. Far away. I don't want your CO2-enriched misama anywhere near my eyes/nose/mouth. I run in the opposite direction so I can see you approach me. When I spot you up ahead, I move to the other side of the road or trail. If it's a narrow trail, then I step aside and hold my breath.

Viruses in exhausted breath can have a hang time of 30 minutes or longer.

This "study" is from noted neo nazi scum AND BIKER Bert Blocken, so you know, maybe ignore it and grind his face into the asphalt if you see him out biking. Mfing bikers always ruining everything.

Plain and simple. Run past people next to them if necessary move out to the road. If you notice a lot of joggers prefer running on the sidewalks! Push the pace a little & make passing moves

ahem wrote:

The jogger in the front is most probably infected as he vomits each other second.

Gotta admire his dedication, though.

f-ing eh. This was a great reply. Ya, your lungs are filled with the choking virus, but a man has got to run.

probably more applicable to hobby biking during the pandemic