How are different everyday training shoes different? For example the Lunarglide 8 compared to the Pegasus 35

Multiple shoes are no requirement. I also wouldn't just look into a single brand.

It also really depends on what you need.

Nike or Adidas for instance generally are not your best choices when you're looking for low drop daily mileage shoes.

I don't run competitively and am also not a believer of running in “barefoot shoes“ so i don't need the 5 oz or less shoe with next to no foam underneath, but i generally like lower drops and wider toe boxes, but i don't always want to run in zero drop, so i rotate a few shoes in the 0-6mm drop range. I also have a maximalist cushion shoe with 8mm drop.

If you only consider more or less the same geometry shoes with more or less the same attributes, you really don't need more than one pair, except if you really love a certain model and want to prolong it's life by not having to use it on every run you do.

The Pegasus is the best shoe, worn by many elites.

Sure if you only run 50 mpw it won't matter much, but if you are pushing your limits a shoe with incredible cushioning and protection as the Pegasus is worth gold. And it's not even that slow on tempos and longer intervals, the 36 reduced the weight a lot and tbh most of the workouts are more about your fitness than anything, shoes are just another 1%er like core, cross-training and all the other stuff.

Depending on what type of shoes you like but as a daily trainer where you will be run 30-90 mins you could probably get away will any trainer.

A $20 shoe vs $100 shoe maybe less comfortable, less durability and need to be replaced sooner but you could get a pair every couple of months and still be break even.

If you are new to running, a $40-50 shoe with some cushioning and see how it goes

Strange comparison to make now - Lunarglides have been dead for a couple of years now I think?

I did run in them and an earlier version of Pegasus at the same time however. Different cushioning between the two - Lunarglides were definitely a softer squishy ride - but the main difference for me was the sole. Lunarglides were absolutely useless unless it was bone dry outside, absolutely no grip at all. Whereas Pegs were good even on light trails.

Winflo is a cheaper budget Pegasus. Gets work done, but you could probably get Adidas Boston or Reebok Floatride Forever Energy for about the same price on sale, both of which will probably last twice as long.

while we're on the topic, what's the deal with Burger King selling both a whopper and a quarter pounder?

Are they not both hamburgers? Why cause all the confusion for consumers??

juanito wrote:

while we're on the topic, what's the deal with Burger King selling both a whopper and a quarter pounder?

Are they not both hamburgers? Why cause all the confusion for consumers??

I does my head in too. I'm in the queue, looking up at the menu..right Whopper it is then. Wait..what is this, a qtr pounder? Maybe i'll get that? No I'll get a Whopper. Wait...f^ck it.

juanito wrote:

while we're on the topic, what's the deal with Burger King selling both a whopper and a quarter pounder?

Are they not both hamburgers? Why cause all the confusion for consumers??

Ha ha amazing, just too funny. When does your Netflix special air?

bro. do some basic research before posting this nonsense.

for instance, to use your examples:

- lunarglide used (past tense, because they are discontinued) lunarlon foam and was a mild stability shoe (for overpronators).

- pegasus is a zoom shoe that uses zoom air pockets for cushioning (with some other foam) and is a neutral shoe.

do you honestly think that multi-billion dollar companies would invest millions of dollars on r&d and production if the shoes weren't different from one another?

I only have one shoe that I run in. If I have any more than that it doesn't make me feel good for some reason. Plus I'm a very thrifty person. I will tell you this: Different shoes can be SO different in the way they perform and feel. For example, one model shoe may be snug and with a firm ride: another may be loose and well cushioned. This can make a major difference in the enjoyment of your running.

Buying last year's model of any major shoe brand that have at least a minimal stability is a safe and economical bet Only buy from direct or from authorized dealers. Stay away from department store shoes or shoes that are more than two years old.

For anyone in Europe, can I make a plea for the Kalenji Run Active from Decathlon for just GBP 9.99 ?

Honestly better than any racing flat I owned in my youth. No outsole, so only good on dry days. Fits like a Pegasus, weighs almost nothing. No noticeable wear yet, but you could splurge on a new pair as soon as you do notice some...

Each shoe in the brand serves a different purpose.

Nike has the following.

Pegasus-neutral

Vomero-high cushion neutral

Lunarglide discontinued- light stability

Structure (May be discontinued)- moderate stability

Odyssey discontinued(not the react) -high cushion moderate stability

Now the new line of reacts are basically the same thing.

Epic react- high cushion but responsive

Infinity react- high cushion stability

Most brands follow this model.

Each shoe fits a person based off how they run or walk.

Cushion is not the support of the shoe. The stability is the support of the shoe. Stability and the levels of stability will help with the level of pronation control you need.

Stop coming into stores and asking for a supportive shoe but meaning cushion!!!!!

Most people will gravitate towards the cheapest shoe. Just know what you need and what you want to look for before you buy. Don’t get the wrong shoe if you see posting in the shoe meant for pronation control when you don’t pronate!!!!

LateRunnerPhil wrote:

The Pegasus is the best shoe, worn by many elites.

Sure if you only run 50 mpw it won't matter much, but if you are pushing your limits a shoe with incredible cushioning and protection as the Pegasus is worth gold. And it's not even that slow on tempos and longer intervals, the 36 reduced the weight a lot and tbh most of the workouts are more about your fitness than anything, shoes are just another 1%er like core, cross-training and all the other stuff.

The elites you refer to are paid by Nike to wear them. Deep pockets don't necessarily equals best shoes. Still, the OP shares your exclusive Nike bias so perhaps your post was right on.

Hall Pass wrote:

LateRunnerPhil wrote:

The Pegasus is the best shoe, worn by many elites.

Sure if you only run 50 mpw it won't matter much, but if you are pushing your limits a shoe with incredible cushioning and protection as the Pegasus is worth gold. And it's not even that slow on tempos and longer intervals, the 36 reduced the weight a lot and tbh most of the workouts are more about your fitness than anything, shoes are just another 1%er like core, cross-training and all the other stuff.

The elites you refer to are paid by Nike to wear them. Deep pockets don't necessarily equals best shoes. Still, the OP shares your exclusive Nike bias so perhaps your post was right on.

Totally right, I was referring to the OP mentioning the Pegasus specifically but didn't mean that the shoe is superior to other, similar shoes.

What can be observed from the elite runners, is that they use well-cushioned, heavy shoes for most of their runs and some uptempo runs and long runs. Nike athletes use the Pegasus, Adidas athletes the Ultraboost or Solarglide, Saucony athletes the freedom, Brooks athletes the Ghost, Hoka athletes the Clifton, etc. All these shoes are around 9 oz which is above lightweight trainers who are around 7-8 oz and flats which are 5.5-7 oz usually.

Lots of hobby joggers do all their mileage in so called lightweight trainers like the Boston, or Pegasus Turbo because they think it feels better and faster. This in my opinion is a common training mistake, who cares if a training run is a few s/mile faster due to a lighter shoe, it's more important to reduce the effect of the pounding on the tendons, muscles and bones to a minimum and a heavier shoe would do exactly that.