flu away wrote:
No. It was stupid and selfish for the people to eat bad food and smoke and drink and not exercise. Nobody seemed to have a problem with all of the selfish unhealthy living but they sure are quick to want the healthy to give up their lives now so that those unhealthy people survive.
Why you picking on Boris Johnson like that?!
nbni alum wrote:
How do we know they don't have the virus? Part of the issue with this virus is that a lot of people can carry the virus, but be asymptomatic. So they could be passing it on to each other and by extension all of their family members. But hey, no problem, it's only pandemic.
From a previous post:
The point I feel you are missing is these guys don't have the virus...so how are they causing a problem? Yep, you are right, I'm not 100% sure they don't have it and the issue is when they go home - their other household members STILL need to treat them as if they are infected. THAT seems like how this situation will change.
This is an incredibly infectious disease. Those boys have an excellent chance of picking up the disease and transmitting it to their parents, even though they will probably barely notice they have it.
Better sooner than later. Everyone will be exposed over the next year and the way our Government is going, you want it now before they impose the next even worse Draconian measures. It will first be to pack them all on a plane to Alaska . Then when that doesn't quite work, you don't want to know how the crazy decision makers will treat the infected if you get the drift.
Stupid but some people will never understand.
Ozzie wrote:
It's stupid. These are things that are happening everywhere I think, but it's still stupid. If there was a coach directing them gather and run together, whether the coach was present or not, then that is unacceptable.
Haha really?
It's totally fine. It's under 10 people right? Put your paranoia back in its cage.
A pack of runners, breathing deeply in and out, the runners in behind are taking into their lungs some of what the runners ahead breathed out. There is a very low chance that any of the runners are carrying the infection, but not zero.
The risk of an individual event may be low, but multiply that by thousands and suddenly what you have is basically a CERTAINTY that someone will pass on an infection. If this continues happening, then the disease continues to spread. And it is still continuing to spread, if you follow the data.
In many hospitals, staff are battling this without proper protective equipment. They are risking their own lives and the lives of their families. Many food workers are doing the same, for low wages. Working without masks. Just do what you can. You should not run in a group, but if you are near other runners, you should be spaced WAY out. No reason not to.
UlsterScot wrote:
This is an incredibly infectious disease. Those boys have an excellent chance of picking up the disease and transmitting it to their parents, even though they will probably barely notice they have it.
How will they pick up the disease if none of them have it and they don't touch anyone else while put running, or come within 10 feet of other people?
What safeguards should families be doing when a family member returns from work, grocery shopping, or a run, that is different from the other?
Trussled wrote:
Ozzie wrote:
It's stupid. These are things that are happening everywhere I think, but it's still stupid. If there was a coach directing them gather and run together, whether the coach was present or not, then that is unacceptable.
Haha really?
It's totally fine. It's under 10 people right? Put your paranoia back in its cage.
I will begin by saying that we disagree, which is fine. At this point though, I would say that any face to face interaction with anyone that is not absolutely necessary is stupid. I don't know when I will stop feeling this way, but probably around the time when local growth rates are under 1% per day or less than 10 active cases within a county. Maybe not exactly, but something like that. Right now the national growth rate is under 10% per day and localities with low growth rates are at 4-5% per day. So some are close. Until then, every person should be doing their best to avoid contact with everyone as much as possible.
I'm a little late to the discussion, but someone please tell why it would be a bad thing if we went back to normal with everything and just let the weak die? That's evolution at it's finest.
The wealthy own the media. The very wealthy like Buffet and Gates are old. So the people who control the media and the politicians are the most vulnerable which is why we are implementing these measures. The sheep are brainwashed from 24x7 media coverage.
UlsterScot wrote:
This is an incredibly infectious disease. Those boys have an excellent chance of picking up the disease and transmitting it to their parents, even though they will probably barely notice they have it.
Parents of teenagers should be healthy enough to handle it. We should want to get it so we can do our part for herd immunity. Old and sickly people should isolate if they want to. The rest of us should run and play.
UlsterScot wrote:
This is an incredibly infectious disease. Those boys have an excellent chance of picking up the disease and transmitting it to their parents, even though they will probably barely notice they have it.
Or they are the several day period were you are infectious but don't show have noticeable symptoms. One group of 7 will likely get away with it. Get 1000 groups of 7 to do it, and a dozen of them will spread it and we end up another 100 infections. Now realize that in the US we would be talking about something like 40 million groups of 7 (i.e. if you can be irresponsible, why can't I?) and you can see how it adds up in a hurry.
That is what we are hoping for so that we can develop herd immunity before our country is gone.
dadsfadsfdasfdsafdas wrote:
UlsterScot wrote:
This is an incredibly infectious disease. Those boys have an excellent chance of picking up the disease and transmitting it to their parents, even though they will probably barely notice they have it.
Or they are the several day period were you are infectious but don't show have noticeable symptoms. One group of 7 will likely get away with it. Get 1000 groups of 7 to do it, and a dozen of them will spread it and we end up another 100 infections. Now realize that in the US we would be talking about something like 40 million groups of 7 (i.e. if you can be irresponsible, why can't I?) and you can see how it adds up in a hurry.
So... you are assuming these high school kids who are out training with the hopes that they may yet have a short track season, or are building already for CC would be irresponsible with social distancing and become infected and worse yet, not be bright enough to not infect someone in their household?
You know how the Government knows better than everyone else. They say stay inside with no money or food or future, and they do it. Funny that the most militant lockdowners have no faith in the person at the very top of the Government.
Help me to understand wrote:
dadsfadsfdasfdsafdas wrote:
Or they are the several day period were you are infectious but don't show have noticeable symptoms. One group of 7 will likely get away with it. Get 1000 groups of 7 to do it, and a dozen of them will spread it and we end up another 100 infections. Now realize that in the US we would be talking about something like 40 million groups of 7 (i.e. if you can be irresponsible, why can't I?) and you can see how it adds up in a hurry.
So... you are assuming these high school kids who are out training with the hopes that they may yet have a short track season, or are building already for CC would be irresponsible with social distancing and become infected and worse yet, not be bright enough to not infect someone in their household?
Umm we are talking about kids who are irresponsibly gathering unnecessarily and putting others at risk. Why the heck would you assume they make smart decisions else where? Odds are they are as big of idiots during the rest of the day. And I think not infecting people you live with when you are sick is incredibly hard. There is a reason why when one person gets sick, others tend to follow. And it isn't because the sick person is trying to infect the people they live with.
reallybros.? wrote:
Per the title, I went on my long run today and I saw a group of about 8 guys also long running. They all looked high school age and were clustered in a tight knit pack. I live in a suburban area in a large Midwestern state. At this point, is this acceptable or just plain stupid? I feel like I should have said something but I kept my mouth shut and ran by them at a careful 6 feet distance.
Uhh ohhh... we got another person believing in the "corona virus religion". Might as well join a cult while you're at it bud
Still guesswork at this point. The CDC says it is not as outrageously contagious as measles, but more contagious than other things. I wouldn't have my athletes running hard track work in a bunch. A long run...different story
Not a big deal because if your lungs can handle running, then you don't have the virus.