The Florida Experiment is Failing

Floridians are a bunch of idiots for the most part. I was down there 2 weeks ago and people were still packing the streets and bars at night. Either no self-awareness or they were misled by Fox and that ilk that downplayed the virus well through February and even in early March.

johnny99 wrote:

https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/coronavirus-outbreak-03-29-20-intl-hnk/index.html

"A trauma physician at Miami's Jackson Memorial Hospital told CNN the hospital's ICU is beginning to fill up just as they are being told there's a supply shortage to treat coronavirus."

"We are slowly descending into chaos," the physician said. "We keep on drilling and preparing but it’s already taking a toll on our staff. Both emotionally and psychologically."

According to fha.org there are 303 hospitals in Florida with a total of 67,086 beds.

According the the Florida department of health there were 594 total hospitalizations for covid as of this morning.

Swaglord_the_real_one wrote:

Floridians are a bunch of idiots for the most part. I was down there 2 weeks ago and people were still packing the streets and bars at night. Either no self-awareness or they were misled by Fox and that ilk that downplayed the virus well through February and even in early March.

Here's a Pro Tip for you....Most of those you saw crowding the beaches and bars and streets were not native Floridians..Most of the irresponsible folks were tourists...It's Florida afterall.

FLMaine wrote:

johnny99 wrote:

https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/coronavirus-outbreak-03-29-20-intl-hnk/index.html

"A trauma physician at Miami's Jackson Memorial Hospital told CNN the hospital's ICU is beginning to fill up just as they are being told there's a supply shortage to treat coronavirus."

"We are slowly descending into chaos," the physician said. "We keep on drilling and preparing but it’s already taking a toll on our staff. Both emotionally and psychologically."

According to fha.org there are 303 hospitals in Florida with a total of 67,086 beds.

According the the Florida department of health there were 594 total hospitalizations for covid as of this morning.

How many ICU beds do they have, how many ventilators do they have, and how many will they need 3 weeks from now?

Pro Tip: close the fvcking beaches

GWT wrote:

Curious if anyone has been following the state by state numbers w/ regards to Covid. Florida's Governor has taken a pretty relaxed approach to combatting the virus, and now it appears to be catching up with them. Their increases the past several days don't look too promising.

Gov. DeSantis made the call to allow counties and localities determine whether to shut things down because he didn't want to interfere with the economic activities in more rural/agricultural counties which hadn't yet had any infections identified. At this moment, we still have some counties without a diagnosed case. Here is the state map:

The problem with his approach, though, is that it fails to recognize that the infection statistics are always behind the curve -- "last week's" numbers -- or even more representative of infection numbers two or three weeks ago. Numbers over the weekend have started to kick up pretty significantly.

A number of cities and more urban counties have taken leadership initiatives. We'll see how it plays out. I hope the rural populations are spared the worst of it.

Swaglord_the_real_one wrote:

Floridians are a bunch of idiots for the most part. I was down there 2 weeks ago and people were still packing the streets and bars at night. Either no self-awareness or they were misled by Fox and that ilk that downplayed the virus well through February and even in early March.

I was there too! We saw you wandering around and thought everything was OK.....

jesseriley wrote:

The “medical experiment” is working, Josef Mengele would be so proud.

Jesse prefers sending those who don’t toe the totalitarian line to the gulags, like his hero did.

I can't believe there are actually people as stupid as you out there.. oh wait, i guess I can. You should take some time to reflect, read a book, take a statistics class, maybe even a science 101 class. You'd be surprised how much you can learn and maybe even realize how stupid you are right now.

Hi Take,

I actually lived in Florida for 14 years & I know how poorly governed it was even in non-pandemic years.

Florida's governor DeSantis may have some sense but he's afraid of Trump and thus is slow-walking measures, having closed the schools but not the beaches and refused a common-sense state shutdown weeks ago, so now there are over 4,000 cases in the state. Democratic-leaning counties, however, heavily urban, have been shutting down, sensibly.

Now Florida is 6th and will be 5th tomorrow. 912 new cases yesterday.

zxcvzcxv wrote:

Now Florida is 6th and will be 5th tomorrow. 912 new cases yesterday.

Seems to be moving in the wrong direction quickly.

Rachel1 wrote:

zxcvzcxv wrote:

Now Florida is 6th and will be 5th tomorrow. 912 new cases yesterday.

Seems to be moving in the wrong direction quickly.

That's what happens when they ramp up testing.

IL has been on lock down has 9 million less people and had 1100 new cases Sunday.

There are still severe shortages and restrictions on testing & supplies in Florida (like most other states).

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/coronavirus/article241605816.html

There have only been ~50,000 tests done in the state. Many tests sites have had to repeatedly close/re-open as they run out of kits and wait on supplies. Only a small fraction of requested kits have been delivered.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/travel/news/tampa-bay-coronavirus-test-sites-change-hours-locations-as-more-kits-arrive/ar-BB11Or8L

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/coronavirus/article241606436.html

Maybe Florida’s response hasn’t been uniquely bad, but given the amount of time we had to prepare and see what was happening other places it was a ‘good’ response.

Keep showing your ignorance but I guess you’re empowered by having a troll in the White House.

It's well known that age is a big factor in covid-19... You're much more likely to need to go to the hospital the older you are. Florida has an older population than the U.S. average by 10%. Since there are only confirmed cases for covid-19 if they go to a hospital and get tested for it, it makes sense that states with older populations would have more confirmed cases than the population would indicate. And Florida has a pretty population to begin with, being the 4th most populous state, only 5% different than New York. Yet New York has twice as many cases for the same population, and has a younger than national average age. And doesn't New York have some of the most extreme restrictions right now and one of the first to go to lockdown?

Seems New York is the failure right now.

Number of tests performed: NY - 172,360. FLA - 43,316. For states with comparable population, that's a big difference.

More people in Florida have the virus but haven't been tested, and therefore haven't been reported. NY's numbers are higher in part because they're testing more.

https://www.politico.com/interactives/2020/coronavirus-testing-by-state-chart-of-new-cases/

Obviously it’s unfair to compare Florida (run by an idiot) to NY (run by Cuomo, who is in touch with reality) lol.