German Professor of Medicine Sucharit Bhakdi lays out Coronavirus hysteria in simple terms

Jamin B. Puss wrote:

Portland Hobby Jogger wrote:

Good morning, Jamin!

Just checking in with you again. Which Seattle hospital is nearly empty and laying off most of their staff right now? You mentioned the 98115 zip code. I, along with several others, are intrigued by your claim and wish to do a little digging to verify it?

BUMP

Jamin, oh, Jamin, Time to own your little lie. Thought we would forget?

From The Seattle Times today, regarding the massive measures taken to provide sufficient hospital beds for the virus, namely two army hospitals set up in tents in Seattle and Everett:

"King and Snohomish counties have about 4,900 staffed hospital beds, including about 940 for critical care, and researchers had predicted that capacity could be quickly reached during the coronavirus pandemic. Some of Seattle’s largest hospitals were already near capacity before the outbreak. But Sauer said aggressive cancellations of elective surgeries and use of telemedicine have opened up beds and area hospitals were now running at closer to 70% capacity."

So I can see why you aren't substantiating your false claims about empty hospitals, layoffs, etc. lol.

And as for your 30 deaths per day avg., the last for days stats for deaths per day in Germany:

May 30: 104

May 31: 130

April 1: 156

April 2: 176

Have anything further to say? I didn't think so.

Jamin has to be the first argument I have seen that intellectual deficiency can be correlated to lack of athletic talent.

here is a fun read wrote:

https://www.history.com/news/1957-flu-pandemic-vaccine-hilleman

One interesting thing is that Hilleman was about 38 at the the time. He bypassed regulatory agencies according to the article.

That is who should have been in charge of the initial testing in Seattle.

Ralph Nader was right. I don't think I had ever really heard of him.

Thanks for the fact check.

Jamin, time to own up to your well-deserved reputation as a liar & spreader of disinformation.

As a German who lives in Germany, I can say that a larger discussion in the media regarding Bhakdi's criticism of the draconian lockdown measures begins because he gets some approval. Bhakdi has expanded his posts on Youtube and published a so-called open letter to Angela Merkel.

Instead of picking out a particular statement or number from him, it may be better to name the main thing here.

Bhakdi believes that we don't know enough to enact draconian measures for an entire society. The measures are disproportionate and he assumes that our knowledge of COVID does not confirm that these drastic measures are necessary.

Bhakdi's critics and of course the government in Germany assume that there is insufficient social immunity against COVID and that hospitals should be protected from problems.

It is now evident that the government can no longer overlook the fact that only a healthy economy can guarantee a strong health system. That is why the hundreds of thousands of harvest workers from Eastern Europe are now allowed to enter with certain instructions, which was previously prohibited. The critics of Bhakdi also admit that they cannot answer all of his questions clearly.

I personally welcome the fact that the discussions are now taking place in politics and society.

Another point of view wrote:Bhakdi has expanded his posts on Youtube and published a so-called open letter to Angela Merkel.

Here it is:

Jamin – I have asked for a simple answer that you cannot provide because what you claim is not true. Rather than admit your failing and apologize, you choose to hide while attempting to change the topic with other threads or by producing more unrelated "evidence" that fails to support your initial untruth.

This shows all of us the utter lack of character and self-control that you possess. You spread lies and hyperbole to garner attention for yourself. You proffer false information for unknown reasons. Whether you wish to feel important, to get cheap amusement and laughs, to validate a personal point-of-view, or, to sow chaos, your irresponsible behavior is truly stunning. I am both shocked and saddened that a seemingly educated and successful young man openly displays such immaturity. I can only gather that you likely suffer from a very deeply rooted emotional or mental health issue.

I truly wish that you would step away from this site, seek the professional help that you need, and, find a path towards personal growth and happiness.

Yes, and a nice cherry on top was the “agricultural workers from Eastern Europe.” Racism can be exported even during a pandemic, I suppose.

Next, I’m sure the problems can be blamed on Mexicans.

Thanks also for the German-language video. One might easily conclude that you are posting in coordination with racist groups in Germany, clearly against the interests of USA.

jesseriley wrote:

Thanks also for the German-language video. One might easily conclude that you are posting in coordination with racist groups in Germany, clearly against the interests of USA.

Sadly, anti-intellectual, anti-science statements like the one above are so often used now to shut down debate. There is a translated version of the video in which the prof mentions similar work at Stanford University.

The questions he poses are measured and sober. Name calling for no reason is not debate.

It is, ironically, bigotry.

Thank you for the correct words.

This is exactly what divides societies: Without knowing the person, an attempt is made to discredit other opinions with imposing vocabulary (racism, fascism, cynicism and so on).

As someone with an academic background, I find that Bhakdi asks legitimate questions about the methodical-analytical approach to the crisis.

Personally speaking, I received no clear answer from the local police as to whether my wife and I could visit her 81-year-old father during Easter, who lives in another EU country and he is not in a good physical condition. It is said in the news that the government will extend the measures at least for the next three weeks and will try to limit the usual Easter traffic.

We all know the numbers and know that COVID is a serious disease. But it cannot in any way endanger the existence of any nation. And we know without any doubt that the impact on the economy is horrible. Considering the situation and the total lockdown, I would like to know whether our free habits and our economic success can now be restricted at any time by measures taken by an almost allmighty gremium of politicians, civil servants and some experts, if a vaguely defined number of victims of an infectious disease is to be expected. I would like to quote the German university professor Hans Michael Heinig, March 17th:

"Even if it is necessary to introduce vigorous measures to prevent the further spread of the viral disease: Reluctantly one would like to find himself in a few weeks back in a society that quickly transformed from a democratic constitutional state into a hysterical hygiene state (...)."

Generally speaking, a million-word post is the first sign of disinformation. This is LetsRun, after all.

Why hasn’t your University published your dissertation, Herr Professor Doktor?

It's true that there are many unknowns. But at this point we have a lot of evidence of what coronavirus can do if quick action isn't taken (Italy, Spain, etc.). And we have have evidence of what actions in a free and democratic society will prevent an Italy-like situation from occurring if those steps are taken in time (see: South Korea and Taiwan).

But it's irresponsible, especially for people with some claim to vaguely related expertise, to say "we just don't know enough" when it's clear that the worst possible outcomes include BOTH widespread death and severe economic consequences.

The Germans will be fine. They can afford to cut their economy in half and still have plenty left over to feed and house everybody. There's no reason to risk a huge number of deaths when you have that kind of economic cushion.

Mostly agree, but unfortunately the irresponsible doctor (who can have no influence within his profession) can be followed by irresponsible viewers & promoters of his statement.

Thanks for your post.

Taking into account all victims, every discussion is stressed right from the start.

A doctor whom I consider to be excellent, said that his experience in the emergency room has always been characterized by the fact that capacities are limited. It is a question of money, past experience and also political courage.

In a society with a fully comprehensive mentality, all decisions are difficult.

Germany is not really rich, even if many think so. The current poverty report is bad. If this continues, this crisis will change everything without the virus being really particularly cruel (and it is not).

Please understand me correctly when I say that we all have to think of the old and the children.

I’m afraid there is always an agenda, and I think the worst agenda is favoring the economy over people. And, sad to say, people with this agenda will only harm both, and to a much greater extent.

jesseriley wrote:

I’m afraid there is always an agenda, and I think the worst agenda is favoring the economy over people. And, sad to say, people with this agenda will only harm both, and to a much greater extent.

Exactly. Hesitate from the tough preventative measures that need to be done, like what was done in South Korea and Taiwan, and we will have to drag this process for a lot longer and at a much greater price, not only to the economy, but to public health. This is what they are failing to understand, to their own detriment.