Is New York the most dangerous place to be in the world right now?

I don't understand how the simple fact that the NYC metro area is both really dense and really populous gets missed by so many people. Yes, we have the most cases (right now)...this is to be expected (huge population, high density, lots of int'l travel, the subway, etc). We're also clearly a week to several weeks ahead of other places in the country. It's just politically blinded stupidity and normal stupidity that so many people (not you) keep pointing the finger at us in NYC like we're the ones (and the only ones) to mess this up. Cases and deaths are about to ramp up aggressively in the rest of the country outside of NYC....why don't they see that? They will be singing a different tune very soon. On top of that, NYC does have lots of money and resources (comparatively) and some of the best hospitals and doctors in the country....and they're not 120 miles away when you get sick. I don't wish for others states to get hit hard, but they're going to, and they're going to be much worse off than NYC when they do.

You don't get it. NY is the tip of the spear. It's coming for you really soon. Also, tell me about all those people who went on spring break, who went to Mardi Gras, who were going to attend a 10K person event at Liberty U until idiot Falwell was forced to cancel it....

Speaking strictly in terms of COVID, the New York metro is at about 25 deaths/million, which is still better than San Marino - 619, Italy - 151, Spain - 106, Andorra - 39, Netherlands - 32, France - 31, Iran - 28, and Switzerland - 27. Heck, if you take out the New York metro area, the US average is a little under 3 deaths per million. So it is probably the least safe place in the US, but not the world.

Other than Kirkland, WA and possibly New Orleans, LA.

ATEA4RE wrote:

We're also clearly a week to several weeks ahead of other places in the country. It's just politically blinded stupidity and normal stupidity that so many people (not you) keep pointing the finger at us in NYC like we're the ones (and the only ones) to mess this up. Cases and deaths are about to ramp up aggressively in the rest of the country outside of NYC....why don't they see that? I don't wish for others states to get hit hard, but they're going to, and they're going to be much worse off than NYC when they do.

You're not ahead of anyone. As long as the trains and buses are still running, and cabs and ubers are still taking people around, cases will continue to climb. The New York metro represents 5 billion of the 11 billion trips people take on public transportation in this country each year. It is the major reason why your rate is so much higher than the rest of the country. New York banned large gatherings, but they exempted mass transit. The fundamental construct of your city lends itself to the rapid spread of a disease like COVID, which is why your city is suffering as it is.

trollism wrote:

Given they say that money is one of the most common ways to transmit the disease

Do they? From what I've heard and read droplet infection is way more frequent then contact infection - but I'm happy to learn new things.

LOL. Your "analysis" is nonsensical. The major reason our rate is higher is because, again, we're ahead of most of the country...that is, it came here first (likely after or at the same time as WA). We also have a huge % of the US population and high density. And lots and lots of visitors, domestic and foreign. The subway and buses have been empty for weeks...your billions of trips stat is meaningless. Nonessential workers have been home for 2 weeks. Also, there's no evidence the subway has been a major factor in spread. It's just an idea you have, backed up by nothing. Why not the thousands and thousands of bars, restaurants, clubs, theaters, stores, etc?

Your arrogance is astounding and astoundingly stupid. Wherever you live, things are going to change for you soon. You'll soon see how wrong you are.

Nope. Larger cities than New York like Tokyo and Seoul also depend heavily on mass transit but they have contained the virus.

New York State is proposing eliminating a tenants rent for 90-days without providing any form of compensation to landlords. That seems unconstitutional and dangerous to me!

timetells wrote:

trollism wrote:

Given they say that money is one of the most common ways to transmit the disease

Do they? From what I've heard and read droplet infection is way more frequent then contact infection - but I'm happy to learn new things.

Yeah, and guess what? New York doesn't actually give physical money to other states either so my comment was completely wrong.

Or a joke.

When New Yorkers start wearing masks and gloves like a lot of people in Tokyo and Seoul, then you can post again.

Health care control has always been primarily administered by the States, counties and cities. It is why the states have varied policies regarding abortion and other health issues. Each state has different health needs. This is how the constitution was configured to give states certain rights and the Federal government others.

New York had the absolute responsibility to maintain sufficient resources to meet the local health issues specific to their state. The fed should avoid placing blanket edicts for all states that don't have similar issues. These particular health issues should have been addressed at the state governor and city mayor level. The people in these positions in NY failed their duty to protect their state as authorized by the Constitution.

I hope their failure does not result in infections throughout the entire country.

I hope Coumo stops crying and starts doing for his State. De Blasio has been revealed as a narcissistic failure for the NY urban area.

Couple of notes: public transit use is waaay down. A lot of people are wearing masks...maybe 1 in 4.

The suspension of rent is for people who have lost their jobs not for anyone else. People just love talking out of their ass I see.

His home city and state too, botched it badly.

I have a lot of international friends and world is really noticing that it is the Trump’s and indeed Kushner’s home city that’s hurting, all agree that makes the administration look weak.

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/fox-news-doctor-underscores-ventilators-151322779.html

NY outbreak should have been overseen by Cuomo and De Blasio. The NY politicians failed and allowed infection by the New Orleans Mardi Gras kids from NY that decided to spread the virus, and the Miami spring break kids from NY who decided to spread the virus. Where were their parents - where was Cuomo and De Blasio?

Now the failure of controls in NY will result in the spread to the rest of the country.

Trump and Jared’s hometown, not good at all.

Also Trump brought the virus into Florida when he invited Brazilian politicians to Don Jr’s girlfriends birthday party at mar-a-lego.

Now that is the right attitude. Ignore the Russian trolls and those who would divide us. Like after 9/11, we need the country to pull together to get through this.

A Hungry, Violent Mob wrote:

1ub2run wrote:

Dear Planet Earth,

New York City will solve this virus. We have some of the best and brightest here. We will have treatments, knowledge, and best protocols for the rest of you to follow. While I agree it’s not fun to stand in the fire now, we will overcome.

Signed, NYC

I'm a southern right-winger and I believe this. You can hate liberal policies all you want, but New York is the rock for America and it gives the rest of the country hope. It was the same way during 9/11 and I believe it will be here, too.

krispy kremlin_._._._ wrote:

New York City has fallen.

Full-stop travel bans are needed now to ensure safety of the nation.

Let the this big-state's highly-educated progressive liberals figure this one out.

Dude, seriously?

That attitude sounds so....2019. You are better than that.