Why the heck was New York City not prepared for this? The tax the heck out of every resident.

It's not the fault of people in NY, or the health care workers there that their government did not prepare. And just for the record I live in CA. It seems like governors were in a no-win situation. If they took measures early to protect their citizens, like Gavin Newsome, they were criticized for giving into fear and costing people their jobs. If they didn't take steps early they are accused of being unprepared.

At the end of the day, resources have to go where they are needed the most. it would be ideal if every state had enough but they don't. I don't blame Cuomo for trying to get the resources he needs for his state. That's what he was elected to do. I'm sure your governor is trying to do the same. It really should be up to the Federal Gov to figure out how to best allocate resources to where they are most needed. I just don't see that happening now.

Sally Vix wrote:

It is supposedly the greatest city in the world. Why is Andrew Cuomo asking the federal government for aid when the state should have done the same to protect the citizens? The tax rates are like 65% - Why the hell does NYC not have masks and ventilators and everything else? Why the heck have they needed to rely on the federal government?

I read the thread title, and before I saw you were the author, I thought, "There's someone who doesn't understand anything." And, right I was!

Sally we get it, it’s Trumps’s home and city but give him a break.

Btw you couldn’t even nail the thread title.

Cuomo in the morning: "Trump is bumbling idiot who can't do anything right!"

Cuomo in the afternoon: "How could Trump not have perfectly predicted the future and responded with exactly correct timing and action!?"

But it's politics, so don't hate the player, hate the game. Though it is interesting to me that the level of trust in government is generally very low, but for whatever reason, there are expectations that government will suddenly be amazing, quick, and efficient in a time of crisis.

X-Runner wrote:

The top federal marginal tax rate is 37%

The top New York marginal tax rate is 8.82%

NYC tops out at 3.876%

Of course the first tiers of income are at lower rate, so no one is paying up to 50% of their income.

Now you show me how you think most of their taxes are not going to the federal government.

Sales tax is over 8%, tolls are expensive. I’m sure I’m missing some other taxes.

Fun fact: state and local health systems depend on medicaid reimbursements, which are criminally small. The rest of the health system in NYC is run by private for profit and non-profits. The face never ending battles for revenues between insurance reimbursement and medicare/medicaid and providing shareholder returns. This forces them into a "just in time" system of care that has no capacity to respond to disasters.

Then, the US over the past 40 years has off shored its production of medicine and medical devices. We have little domestic production capacity and are having to convert auto assembly lines to making ventilators. So, NYC cannot get the PPEs and ventilators because they are all being produced abroad and domestic demand comes first in a crisis.

Finally, one of the biggest obstacles for states is that they have to compete with the Federal government to acquire this stuff. The VA and other federal agencies are buying up lots of these supplies with very little coordination with the states.

mission accomplished! wrote:

Sally Vix wrote:

It is an effing city - they need to prepare for anything. Why did NYC not have enough masks and ventilators? Why does the federal government have to provide those? Are you crazy?

You didn't think it was a threat, but now you shame people for not thinking it was more of a threat?

Great point! Sally is not only the dumbest person I have ever encountered, he's also an ass. His beloved President got rid of the Pandemic Response Team and cut funding to the CDC. STFU Sally. Are you just trying to increase the number of people who know you are a a dumb@ss?

"Our misleader in chief said, this virus thing would go away with warmer weather and a miracle."

It's just about getting warmer and it looks like cases are going down. If the virus does disappear in the next month or so will you take back your comment?

still here? wrote:

Is Cuomo okay with $25M going to the JFK center for the arts?

$350M for refugee and migration assistance?

$75 million each to the National Endowment for the Arts and the National Endowment for the Humanities?

Not sure if Cuomo is but Trump certainly is, he spoke about it and strongly supported in in yesterday’s press conference.

Oh wait, has he owned you yet again, a con man, what a surprise.

This did not help. Nor the crowded subways.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/de-blasio-haunted-by-weeks-old-tweet-urging-people-to-get-out-on-the-town-despite-coronavirus

krispy kremlin_._._._ wrote:

All of the coastal elitist in places like New York CIty love to think they have it all figured out and the "fly-over" states of the country owe them something.

Turns out places like NYC are just as susceptible to disruptions as the middle of the country was during the dark Obama years.

I refuse to take my abilities to a place like New York City that will steal (yes, steal) 50% of my income for the privilege of living there.

more like, they give all their income to support the flyover states. You are a true idiot

UsedToBeFast wrote:

X-Runner wrote:

The top federal marginal tax rate is 37%

The top New York marginal tax rate is 8.82%

NYC tops out at 3.876%

Of course the first tiers of income are at lower rate, so no one is paying up to 50% of their income.

Now you show me how you think most of their taxes are not going to the federal government.

So sales tax and tolls gets you from 30% to 65% ?

Sales tax is over 8%, tolls are expensive. I’m sure I’m missing some other taxes.

A New Yorker is responsible.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-team-failed-nsc-pandemic-000023392.html

Another bail-out for another sanctuary city... if these limousine liberal cities were so smart and so rich, why are they not prepared for something like this?

These champagne socialists complain about company stock buybacks but they themselves spend tax dollar bills frivolously (diversity initiatives, immigration assistance, affirmative action policies, etc) and then don't have the resources to keep their people health during crisis..?

Rampant progressive liberalism is gutting the american middle class and yet they vote for it.

Conservative policies with light governmental oversight to ensure individual liberties is the only path forward.

-Krispy

Include Property taxes, gas tax, Phone tax, Internet, Auto registration, misc fees and fines.

Local hotel and airline tax. Parking tickets and speeding.

Even if you think your not paying these taxes you are paying them as a consumer in higher costs. If you rent remember your landlord has built in the insane property tax and his income tax into your rent.

krispy kremlin_._._._ wrote:

Another bail-out for another sanctuary city... if these limousine liberal cities were so smart and so rich, why are they not prepared for something like this?

These champagne socialists complain about company stock buybacks but they themselves spend tax dollar bills frivolously (diversity initiatives, immigration assistance, affirmative action policies, etc) and then don't have the resources to keep their people health during crisis..?

Rampant progressive liberalism is gutting the american middle class and yet they vote for it.

Conservative policies with light governmental oversight to ensure individual liberties is the only path forward.

-Krispy

As if your post wasn’t inane enough, the Limbaugh buzzwords really put it over the top.

krispy kremlin_._._._ wrote:

Another bail-out for another sanctuary city... if these limousine liberal cities were so smart and so rich, why are they not prepared for something like this?

These champagne socialists complain about company stock buybacks but they themselves spend tax dollar bills frivolously (diversity initiatives, immigration assistance, affirmative action policies, etc) and then don't have the resources to keep their people health during crisis..?

Rampant progressive liberalism is gutting the american middle class and yet they vote for it.

Conservative policies with light governmental oversight to ensure individual liberties is the only path forward.

-Krispy

Let me guess, you're OK when the federal government (meaning us taxpayers) bails out a city in a red state?

New York City has fallen.

America's epicenter of progressive-liberalism excess is falling into the ocean.

To all the NYC tax payers: now that a mitigatable disaster has befallen your city and your fearless mayor has bumbled the response which will multiply the body-count tenfold, how are your years of immoral taxes feeling? Are you getting what you asked for?

The president’s home town has fallen, a very bad weak look for a sitting president.