Nearly twice as many Americans are dying daily of Coronavirus as from the flu despite a much smaller patient population

All of you folks who are saying we should just get back to work during this pandemic will look pretty stupid in a month's time. Mark my words. I'm sure you'll apologize for all of the propaganda, disinformation and resulting deaths. If your Dear Leader and his propaganda machine actually disregard the science and millions of Faux News viewers die, it will be tough to spin that even with your alternative facts/reality world view. Wake up, people. Stay home, stay healthy.

run faster and faster wrote:

Smoking, poor diet, and lack of exercise.

Exactly. Welcome to reality everybody. Want to smoke, not take care of yourself and eat like sh$t? Well what do you know - there are some repercussions. And before someone jumps up and down stating - “there are cases of completely healthy people under the age of 40 dying too” yes I am aware of this and why it happens, except these cases are unfortunate outliers and outlier cases that happen with every cold, flu and contractable virus known to man.

The death curve is quite frightening.

https://imgur.com/NZSBWZF

"The media" wrote:

All of you folks who are saying we should just get back to work during this pandemic will look pretty stupid in a month's time. Mark my words. I'm sure you'll apologize for all of the propaganda, disinformation and resulting deaths. If your Dear Leader and his propaganda machine actually disregard the science and millions of Faux News viewers die, it will be tough to spin that even with your alternative facts/reality world view. Wake up, people. Stay home, stay healthy.

Let me guess. Salaried employment? Paycheck every 2 weeks. Living comfortably? Show some freaking awareness mate. What’s almost comical here is the certainty with which you speak - like you without any shadow of a doubt know what’s going to happen. Also wtf is this notion that anyone that dares to raise realities of unemployment, facts about who gets seriously compromised by covid-19 etc is automatically a Donald Trump ally?!?! Are you freaking me? Bleeding heart privileged liberal attitude - funnily enough these traits tend to match up with zero emotional intelligence. F-ing unbelievable

Spot on- want to second the notion that it is only those who have salaried positions who can easily dismiss the concerns of those who are relying on a weekly paycheck. And I know from long experience those over-privileged liberal elitists (especially the academics who often control opinion) care not one whit for their "lessers" despite those crocodile tears. Who do you think has been doing most of the hoarding.

Remember Anthrax, West Nile Virus, SARS, Bird Flu, E. Coli, Swine Flu, Ebola, Disney Measles and Zika Virus, Nigerian Yellowcake, Kuwaiti Babies, Gulf of Tonkin and on and on and on....

“Anyone advising the end of social distancing now needs to fully understand what the country will look like if we do that,” cautioned Dr. Tom Inglesby, a health security expert at Johns Hopkins University. “COVID would spread widely, rapidly, terribly, and could kill potentially millions in the year ahead, with huge social and economic impact.”

Whatever we do, the pain of both disease and business and school closures may be enormous. During the Great Depression, the jobless rate reached 25%; today, the president of the Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis, James Bullard, warns that it might reach 30%. People may lose their jobs, savings and homes; they will go without parties, weddings, funerals and graduations that give life connectedness and meaning.

But we know quite a bit about how to ease economic pain: We can send out checks to individuals, and we can incentivize companies to keep workers on the payrolls. Both steps are part of legislation being considered in Washington."

Dr. Larry Brilliant, an epidemiologist who is a veteran of the eradication of smallpox and now chairman of an organization called Ending Pandemics, warned that if Trump sends everyone back to work by Easter, “I think history would judge it an error of epic proportions.”

That’s why epidemiologists and public health experts warn against relaxing too soon. Dr. Peter Hotez, a global health expert at Baylor College of Medicine, calls for maintaining controls for at least another month and then reassessing.

https://www.dailypress.com/coronavirus/sns-nyt-what-happens-if-america-reopens-20200326-svfovg7lvzgoxmkybjetx46taa-story.html

unemployedquestion2 wrote:

gully much? wrote:

The US had roughly 1000 cases 15 days ago, now 75,000.

The US also wasn't testing in mass quantity until the past week. The majority of the positive cases are mild. There have been only 1000 deaths with those 75,000 cases. The number of confirmed cases will continue to skyrocket as more tests are done. The mortality rate will subsequently continue to drop and reveal how absurd this whole mess has become.

It’s been 1,000 deaths because 60,000 of those cases came this week. Again, you’re showing a lack of this works. The deaths per day is tracking at the same rate as the total cases but just from a smaller base.

As long we’re piling on cases, we don’t know they are mild because the cases are all new.

Once they got through a full 2-week cycle, they we’ll no. But for now, people are dying at an alarming rate.

Ah so we're doing public policy by worst case scenarios now- please be aware that asteroid just took a left turn. I'm sure Doctor Tom will be stable in his palatial home.

Now let's review what those experts at the WHO had to say about opioids for starters.

And should we go over the CDC's track record- maybe we should start with their ACIP committee and their non-stop investments in pharmaceuticals. Nah, that's too much to ask.

Trust us we're the experts even though we've been getting it wrong for decades. Talk about deniers.

We had 17,000 new cases in the past day, rising to the most in the world at 85,000, and deaths were up by 268 in a day to 1295. Surely you all can see where this is going. It takes about 2-6 weeks for the virus to kill in most cases where it does, so there is going to be a steeply increasing death toll for the next month or more solely because of the new cases in the past week.

Roughly 800,000 cases in the U.S. in 10 days at this rate and 15,000+ deaths.

zxcvzcxv wrote:

We had 17,000 new cases in the past day, rising to the most in the world at 85,000, and deaths were up by 268 in a day to 1295. Surely you all can see where this is going. It takes about 2-6 weeks for the virus to kill in most cases where it does, so there is going to be a steeply increasing death toll for the next month or more solely because of the new cases in the past week.

Roughly 800,000 cases in the U.S. in 10 days at this rate and 15,000+ deaths.

It’ll be gone by Easter.

They need to send in our vaunted military...we spend so much $$ on them. I support our troops but it'd be nice to call up the Guard units in all 50 states to assist our Active members too.

This is comparing the peak of covid with the tail of the flu season. Flu killed up to an estimated 50,000 people in the past year; since it kills very few during summer, it certainly killed well over 1,000 per week during its peak months.

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Not worried about the 1,000 deaths...look at Italy, not the deaths but the amount in need of critical care.

If USA relaxes intervention, they risk being isolated from the rest of world for a very long time.0

interesting to see all the paid or unpaid idiots spreading out their denial and eugenic. make your own guess about their psychology and character.

joedirtball wrote:

It’s comparable to the H1N1 outbreak. Additionally the patient population for coronavirus is very understated. The number of flu patients is much more defined due to rapid testing (basically everyone that sees a doctor gets a flu test if they have symptoms).

Not quite. Very few people actually get tested. The numbers that are cited every year by the CDC are statistical guesstimates.

Runningart2004 wrote:

Why do you think the CDC/WHO reacts differently to COVID-19 than the flu? Perhaps because they know what they are talking about?

Alan

Alan, would you tell me what WHO's position on the DDT ban, and compare that to the consequences that were caused by them being wrong?

Look it up if you have to.

corona kills very weak people.

the reaction kills strong people financially.

and kills everyone's retirement, straight to poverty.

corona does not kill much, your extreme stupidity kill better than black death.

your brains in fear are black death.

Bad Wigins wrote:

This is comparing the peak of covid with the tail of the flu season. Flu killed up to an estimated 50,000 people in the past year; since it kills very few during summer, it certainly killed well over 1,000 per week during its peak months.

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You mean comparing the beginning of Covid to the peak of the flu. Covid, unfortunately, will be killing over 1,000 people per day in short order.

gully much? wrote:

Bad Wigins wrote:

This is comparing the peak of covid with the tail of the flu season. Flu killed up to an estimated 50,000 people in the past year; since it kills very few during summer, it certainly killed well over 1,000 per week during its peak months.

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You mean comparing the beginning of Covid to the peak of the flu. Covid, unfortunately, will be killing over 1,000 people per day in short order.

Earth to moran, Covid has already been around 4 months, and run its course in Asia where it showed a peak window of 2 to 4 weeks. It's already halfway done in Europe and almost halfway in the US. It's not only in its peak, it's near the end of it.

Have you ever looked at charts? Can you do math?