Per Julia’s FB post: Average age 79.5 & 99% had other health problems** of the deaths in Spain. RIP .... If I am to live beyond 75 I will accept each day as it comes as a gift....the flu, heart disease, cancer... it happens. Shutting the world down doesn't seem like the answer to this.
EDIT - 99% problems were 1 of 3: high blood pressure, diabetes or heart disease
What say you about her post, discus.
high bp? hardly a serious old person condition and easily treatable.
If all it takes is HBP I'm screwed.
Isn't it being hypocritical to be Pro-Life, but when it comes to the elderly "Let them die"?
Also, there's probably epidemiologists and economists who have calculated the costs-benefits of all of this, which is why most of the world has shut down.
let the economists speak wrote:
Isn't it being hypocritical to be Pro-Life, but when it comes to the elderly "Let them die"?
Also, there's probably epidemiologists and economists who have calculated the costs-benefits of all of this, which is why most of the world has shut down.
She isn't saying "let them die", she'd citing the demographic. How many people die every DAY in the US in the 70+ demographic ? Look it up.
#CancelAlanAndJulia
let the economists speak wrote:
Isn't it being hypocritical to be Pro-Life, but when it comes to the elderly "Let them die"?
Also, there's probably epidemiologists and economists who have calculated the costs-benefits of all of this, which is why most of the world has shut down.
No, it's not. Death of the elderly is a natural progression...Forced death of a fetus is not. If the fetus would not otherwise die, that's different. Elderly people are not being forced to die. We're just letting nature takeit's course.
bartholomew_maxwell wrote:
let the economists speak wrote:
Isn't it being hypocritical to be Pro-Life, but when it comes to the elderly "Let them die"?
Also, there's probably epidemiologists and economists who have calculated the costs-benefits of all of this, which is why most of the world has shut down.
No, it's not. Death of the elderly is a natural progression...Forced death of a fetus is not. If the fetus would not otherwise die, that's different. Elderly people are not being forced to die. We're just letting nature takeit's course.
It is forced death when you have to withhold life saving care due to an overwhelmed health system. And if we take off six weeks to defeat the virus, we would just be on par with the amount of vacation time most Europeans get. This isn’t about saving the economy so workers will be able to feed their families. This is about letting millions suffer from a devastating illness to protect the investment portfolios of a handful of the rich.
Precious Roy wrote:
bartholomew_maxwell wrote:
No, it's not. Death of the elderly is a natural progression...Forced death of a fetus is not. If the fetus would not otherwise die, that's different. Elderly people are not being forced to die. We're just letting nature takeit's course.
It is forced death when you have to withhold life saving care due to an overwhelmed health system. And if we take off six weeks to defeat the virus, we would just be on par with the amount of vacation time most Europeans get. This isn’t about saving the economy so workers will be able to feed their families. This is about letting millions suffer from a devastating illness to protect the investment portfolios of a handful of the rich.
You spout this ridiculous rhetoric, but even you are smart enough to know how ridiculous you sound.
But I realize you Democrats can’t help yourself. A golden opportunity to virtue signal and bring down capitalism ... never let a crisis (or the opportunity to manufacture a crisis) go to waste.
let the economists speak wrote:
Isn't it being hypocritical to be Pro-Life, but when it comes to the elderly "Let them die"?
Also, there's probably epidemiologists and economists who have calculated the costs-benefits of all of this, which is why most of the world has shut down.
Most "Pro Lifers" are only pro unborn life. Once people are born, they don't care.
and you can be 100% sure the twits saying the old people should be allowed to die from this would be screaming bloody murder about obama's "death panels" in '08.
fascism is a hell of a drug..
pro life, not wrote:
Most "Pro Lifers" are only pro unborn life. Once people are born, they don't care.
Pro-Life = Anti-Murder. It like how PETA focuses almost all their attention on animals being killed for fur coats, and none on making the lives of wild animals easier, by leaving out food, provided by the government.
c vvvd wrote:
and you can be 100% sure the twits saying the old people should be allowed to die from this would be screaming bloody murder about obama's "death panels" in '08.
fascism is a hell of a drug..
^^^^^This
Honestly the Webbs are incredibly annoying
Nobody is advocating taking ventilators away from the elderly and giving them to the young, yet. She's simply saying "don't beat yourself up over this. It's not your fault. Dammit. That's what old people do. They die."
This whole situation is just reinforcing how many selfish people there are. It truly is sad.
It's totally not about old or already sick people dying.
It's about a vast uptick in people seeking medical care to a point where we don't have the capacity to treat everyone for any medical ailment.
No Democrats are trying to bring down capitalism. Jeez-O-Pete. Learn a few things.
Major Hoople's wrote:
Nobody is advocating taking ventilators away from the elderly and giving them to the young, yet. She's simply saying "don't beat yourself up over this. It's not your fault. Dammit. That's what old people do. They die."
Nah fool, what she said is this: "Shutting the world down doesn't seem like the answer to this."
Maybe her damned bloody tready has the answer? JFC, she's worse than the Halls, Kirk Cameron, Jenny McCarthy, and Mel Gibson combined. She's led a cushy AF life, apparently.
Viral facts. wrote:
She isn't saying "let them die", she'd citing the demographic. How many people die every DAY in the US in the 70+ demographic ? Look it up.
This is the epitome of lazy internet arguments. You made a claim and then told your opponent to go find evidence that supports you. If you’re trying to convince anyone other than yourself please provide the evidence and its source. You might learn something too.
I would definitely have high blood pressure if I had to share a domicile with Alan Webb. Dude is intense, and not in a fun way. Julia should be a little more concerned for her own safety.