Can’t find it now but there was a thread about a study showing that people who received a flu vaccine were 36% more likely to get Covid. Practically every old person I know gets vaxed religiously, this along with age and preexisting condistions sounds like a pretty grim combo
slripe111 wrote:
Can’t find it now but there was a thread about a study showing that people who received a flu vaccine were 36% more likely to get Covid. Practically every old person I know gets vaxed religiously, this along with age and preexisting condistions sounds like a pretty grim combo
So, you saw a thread on LRC that you cannot find, about a study that you didn't read, by a person that you cannot name and you have decided to believe it's true and spread it as if it were fact?
Nice!
The irony.
?️Facts Matter wrote:
So, you saw a thread on LRC that you cannot find, about a study that you didn't read, by a person that you cannot name and you have decided to believe it's true and spread it as if it were fact?
Nice!
Yep, same as pneumonia, copd, chronic bronchitis, TB etc significant lung damage happens with all major lung infections. Covid is no different
trumpedthevirus wrote:
Trump states he wants everything back to normal by Easter. The hospitals will be overwhelmed and the number of deaths will rise to numbers that no one will want to believe. Imagine a little country like Italy having an average 500-600 deaths per day for the past 10 days.
There will be 100,000 cases by Sunday in the USA and it isn't going to be pretty.
Stay safe and hopefully you have your facts straight.
Looks to be spreading faster than anticipated. Most likely over 100,000 cases by tomorrow. Small % percentage of the US but unfortunately it can prove fatal in all age group except the very young so far.
All the best who are doing what they can to stop the spread but it is clear that Trump is not up to the task leading the country during this pandemic. The future is unknown and that is what bothers so many of us.
Dr. Blix just confirmed unequivocally today that the models didn't match the reality, we're not going to have hundreds of thousands of deaths, and so forth.
Now watch carefully as hordes of psychopaths go into denial about this. They don't want this to be true. Very twisted, perverted individuals, they want tragedy, disaster, horror. Can't handle it if it doesn't really happen!
Watch them get offended at me for pointing out this inconveniently good news.
Bad: I found an article on Slate.com that really seems to apply to you. It's about the danger of sorta smart people, or self-styled nonconformist "free-thinking" types, polluting the
"...And in some cases, outsider viewpoints provide valuable insights that evade insider experts.
But this wave of nouveau epidemiologists parsing publicly available data about the new coronavirus does not appear to be one of those cases. Epidemiological amateurs make faulty assumptions, get basic principles wrong, or just pull numbers out of thin air. Slipshod data-crunching doesn’t challenge the consensus in any meaningful way. Opining with numbers just because you use numbers in your day job isn’t formulating a rigorous dissent; it’s overestimating your abilities while lacking self-awareness of your own incompetence—the Dunning-Kruger effect...
...but to point out a larger problem with coronavirus data vigilantes: They don’t know what they don’t know. They are oddly comfortable marshalling irrelevant credentials to make sweeping predictions that muddy the waters at a profoundly critical time."
https://slate.com/technology/2020/03/armchair-epidemiology-coronavirus.html
The Dunning-Kruger effect: "People tend to hold overly favorable views of their abilities in many social and intellectual domains. The authors suggest that this overestimation occurs, in part, because people who are unskilled in these domains suffer a dual burden: Not only do these people reach erroneous conclusions and make unfortunate choices, but their incompetence robs them of the metacognitive ability to realize it."
Bad Wigins wrote:
Dr. Blix just confirmed unequivocally today that the models didn't match the reality, we're not going to have hundreds of thousands of deaths, and so forth.
Now watch carefully as hordes of psychopaths go into denial about this. They don't want this to be true. Very twisted, perverted individuals, they want tragedy, disaster, horror. Can't handle it if it doesn't really happen!
Watch them get offended at me for pointing out this inconveniently good news.
Wasn't your original guess that we would have about 2600 cases by Tuesday? And we're at over 80,000 with four days to go?
And now you're readjusting your guess to say that there will not be hundreds of thousands of deaths? and somehow suggesting that you, the one that thought there would only be a few thousand cases, is the one who is right and the others are the people that are wrong?
"you said there would be 500,000 deaths and there were only 100,000; surely that means I, the man that thought only 2,600 people would get sick, am the adult in this room"
you must be clenching so hard rn
Bad Wigins wrote:
Dr. Blix just confirmed unequivocally today that the models didn't match the reality, we're not going to have hundreds of thousands of deaths, and so forth.
Now watch carefully as hordes of psychopaths go into denial about this. They don't want this to be true. Very twisted, perverted individuals, they want tragedy, disaster, horror. Can't handle it if it doesn't really happen!
Watch them get offended at me for pointing out this inconveniently good news.
I would love for that to be the case as I want to get back to coaching my athletes and doing the job I love but we are getting ready to lockdown everything here in Australia as we are almost at 3,000. Hope it isn't to bad in your part of the world. I do coach a few doctors and one who is a respiratory physician said we should have locked down two weeks ago.
If we don't have hundreds of thousands of deaths, it would be due to the measures that have been taken.
But, we are likely to see the trend of deaths continue for at least a couple of weeks, until the time that the social distancing and closures impact the # of deaths. As early as the end of next week, we will be racking up 1000 deaths a day.
Below is another Bad Wigins quote from 3/14 on another thread. Verdict: wrong, wrong, wrong. Not correct within an order of magnitude. Other posters were clearly NOT "utterly clueless by comparison". The thing is, if you're debating a subject, and you get it badly wrong, that means you should just say "lesson learned" and go away - the reason being that you've already demonstrated that you have no idea what you're talking about. And if you cocked it up and didn't know what you were talking about 12 days ago, it seems highly unlikely that since then you've transformed into some deep-thinking iconoclast who refuses to be fooled like all the sheeple out there. Think about it: maybe you are just a crackpot d-bag who got everything wrong.
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Couple days ago, Bad Wigins says we will only have 2600 cases in US by April. So that's only like 90 more cases in the next couple weeks. Stop the panic.
At 2571 on the Johns Hopkins site right now. I wish Bad Wigins was correct, but unfortunately he’s way off.
IS 2571 more than 2600? No
relax,....it's all good. barely a person a day from here on out.
You all think you can make every other fact go away by just attacking me, as usual. I'm surprised you haven't accused me of making all the posts on this thread.
What's really stupid is that this one prediction (of many I've made) is well within an order of magnitude of the probable eventual result. For cases to reach even 10,000 by April would require sustained 8% growth: 1.08^17 = 3.7. Only way that happens is if they ramp up testing even more, and if they do that, down goes the death rate. No cherry-picking.
Everyone saying a million or even 100,000 was utterly clueless by comparison.
Facts Matter? wrote:
If we don't have hundreds of thousands of deaths, it would be due to the measures that have been taken.
Correlation/causation fallacy. Did the Japanese take those measures? Where are their deaths?
With so many people so interested in my predictions, I could dig up the one where I said the freakers would be doing exactly this. Trying to take credit when they should be apologizing for causing a recession.
Bad Wigins wrote:
wigincel: one who involuntarily posts incorrect predictions 100% of the time
Facts Matter wrote:
Facts Matter? wrote:
Next week, when there are over 2000 deaths due to COV-19, what will be your response?
First of all, you have no evidence that there will be 2,000 deaths next week from COVID-19. You are pulling that number straight out of your @ss. However, If next week there are over 2,000 deaths, I will once again remind you that 2,000 is still less than 23,000. I will remind you that 23,000 people have died from the flu and we haven't shut anything down.
When there are over 10,000 deaths the following week, what will be your response?
That is the trend. That is why we can't just let it run it's course.
Again, there is no evidence to support your made up number. I am giving you actual numbers. Your comments prove my point, no one really cares about the current flu deaths, they only feed off of fear from something that hasn't shown itself to be as deadly. You are literally saying that 23,000 deaths doesn't matter and it's no big deal, but 278 deaths is more terrifying. 149 children have died from the flu since October; 5 in just the last week. No one says a word. I started talking about this in my first post on January 31. It's been a over 1 .5 months now and people are still telling me that the virus, any day now, will explode into a lethal killer. During that 1.5 months the flu has been steadily killing roughly 1,000 per week, every week. Someone said that the flu curve was flat so apparently there is no fear in a serial killer as long as he's consistent with his numbers.
No one can dispute my numbers because they are indisputable. Everything I say come's straight from the CDC. People choose what to be afraid of, no matter how irrational it is. This coronavirus panic is irrational, even more glaringly demonstrated by the current state of the flu virus in the USA.
The flu kills more and if the amount of deaths isn't the correct way to measure the destructiveness of a virus, I don't know what is. Scratch that. If the ability to cause fear and panic is the correct way to measure the destructiveness of a virus, COVID-19 wins hands down.
I'm baffled as to why people still can't understand.
Well, there were over 400 deaths yesterday and over 500 today, so that is 900 in two days. So 2000 this week might be an underestimate. So, yeah, currently COVID-19 is killing more people than the flu. Not sure why you were so full of doubt, but I hope you have changed your tune.
Bad Wigins wrote:
With so many people so interested in my predictions, I could dig up the one where I said the freakers would be doing exactly this. Trying to take credit when they should be apologizing for causing a recession.
You're like a monkey picking through sh!t to find a peanut.
You also said there would be no recession.
This. This is the truth
Over 500 death today.
We have now passed the daily average death rate for a historically severe flu season ('17-'18). It's looking grim. Please take this seriously people, even in places where spread seems minimal.
Heartland runner wrote:
Over 500 death today.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/
Liberals NEED this virus to be really BAD. But it's not. Sickening.
I'll give you 3:1 that no one in you know ends up in critical care.coronabookie@gmail.com
TIGER KING wrote:
Liberals NEED this virus to be really BAD. But it's not. Sickening.