Eliud Kipchoge's training camp has shut down to Covid-19. He explains what he's doing now in isolation at home

Coevett wrote:

El Keniano wrote:

Ma sei serio?!?!? This is Coevett we're talking about.

From the man(?) who demands that all foreigners be booted out of Kenya, from Irish swine (imagine Rudisha without brother Colm?) to 'stupid' Nigerians.

Well you've got your wish in part - with travel between Kenya and Europe banned. Lets see how it plays out for Kenya over the next year or two.

Oh, we'll do just fine, thanks. I, unfortunately, am trapped on the wrong side of that ban.

Ugandans (0 cases) are not playing around.

https://twitter.com/_ItsShark/status/1241647412856446976?s=20

Kenya, unfortunately, is quarantining all Kenyan citizens coming from the European Union. Others are being denied entry.

https://citizentv.co.ke/news/coronavirus-two-italian-nationals-denied-entry-into-kenya-flown-to-ethiopia-326871/

Avocado's Number wrote:

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In constrast, although case fatality rates in the current COVID-19 pandemic vary widely from country to country at this point, the overall rate is currently about 4% -- over 100 times the case fatality rate of the 2009 H1N1 pandemic. Some countries, perhaps most notably Italy and Iran, are experiencing much higher fatality rates (perhaps 8% or so), while other countries are showing case fatality rates below one percent, but the case fatality rates virtually everywhere are considerable higher for COVID-19 than for the 2009 H1N1 flu. In this regard, the COVID-19 pandemic is much closer to the 1918 "Spanish flu" pandemic.

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The only CFR numbers I trust are from South Korea and the Diamond Princess, which happen to agree with a CFR of 1.1%. All other data is suspect and usually inflated due to limited testing.

Renato, Coevett is racist and a liar.

Coevett wrote:

Renato - maybe you should reserve your hate for the young people in Milan and Florence who had to show what nice people they are on Facebook and Twitter by photographing themselves hugging a Chinese State Party agent infected with their virus?

That man is Chinese-Italian. His name is Massimiliano Martigli Jiang.

It is important to expose racist lies:

Coevett wrote:

How on Earth can the authorities possibly tell who the initial spreaders were? All I know is that a young Chinese guy with a bib saying 'I have a coronavirus'

Young Italian man.

And the message was not "I have a coronavirus". He even wrote it in English so that monolingual Coevett could understand it, but to no avail.

YMMV wrote:

Avocado's Number wrote:

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In constrast, although case fatality rates in the current COVID-19 pandemic vary widely from country to country at this point, the overall rate is currently about 4% -- over 100 times the case fatality rate of the 2009 H1N1 pandemic. Some countries, perhaps most notably Italy and Iran, are experiencing much higher fatality rates (perhaps 8% or so), while other countries are showing case fatality rates below one percent, but the case fatality rates virtually everywhere are considerable higher for COVID-19 than for the 2009 H1N1 flu. In this regard, the COVID-19 pandemic is much closer to the 1918 "Spanish flu" pandemic.

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The only CFR numbers I trust are from South Korea and the Diamond Princess, which happen to agree with a CFR of 1.1%. All other data is suspect and usually inflated due to limited testing.

Even if you assume a case fatality rate of 1.1%, that's still something near fifty times the case fatality rate of the 2009 H1N1 (swine flu) pandemic. It's a massive difference. Furthermore, reducing the overall case fatality rate to 1.1% while keeping the total number of fatalities as reported (currently, 13,407) would mean that the total number of cases is already considerably above one million, not the 312,000 or so that is currently being reported, and that significantly shortens the time within which an infection rate similar to that of H1N1 or other seasonal flu may be reached. With fifty times case fatality rate and similar infection rates, you end up with some pretty big numbers -- in excess of half a million fatalities in the U.S. and ten million globally. And there's no assurance that the infection rate will be as low as that of the 2009 H1N1 flu, which was limited by, among other things, the development and distribution of a vaccine within a few months of reaching pandemic proportions.

You haven't read the article you linked to, have you?

The victim was not a suspected covid-19 carrier.

John Jon wrote:

https://torontosun.com/news/local-news/suspected-covid-19-carrier-stoned-to-death-in-kenya

You haven't read the article you linked to, have you?

The victim was not a suspected covid-19 carrier.[/quote]

What are you talking about?

The scumbags youths who murdered him suspected him of having the virus, or perhaps they just used that a an excuse to attack a drunk, elderly man.

In fact, according to the police he is not 'suspected' of carrying the virus.

Do you understand the difference?

I do.

"Eradicate the prejudice, enter the China virus".

This whole crisis is the strongest argument ever in favor of strong borders.

Left-wing Italians have blood on their hands for encouraging people to cuddle tourists coming straight from Wuhan.

But remember, those are the same people celebrating the China virus, because it's killing old voters who are supposedly responsible for climate change:

https://summit.news/2020/03/17/german-state-tv-celebrates-coronavirus-for-killing-off-humans/

Coevett, you earnt some point in another thread, but now lost again everything. Now there is no doubt you Always try to manipulate the reality, for supporting wrong thesis without discussions.

One thing is to have some opinion, other thing to manipulate the reality creating "fake news" able to change the mind of people not informed about the argument.

How another poster pointed out, the "Chinese" hugged in Florence was a Chino-Italian and his reaction happened after some idiot (probably with your same mentality) attacked Chinese people after the news of Corona Virus.

He was not infected. Instead, the post he had with him (also written in English) had the following message :

"I'm not a Virus, I'm a human being, free me of prejudice".

These were the words of Massimiliano, grown in Italy, who wrote in a post that put on his chest and his back (one side in Italian, one side in English), going around in the Center of Florence .

Massimiliano did an experiment that wanted to be an appeal to the humanity of people, for communicating that "in this World we all are equal, and particularly mates in the same trip called LIFE. The really Dangerous Virus, more than Corona, is the prejudice we breath in the air.

You speak as the criminal nazis who almost destroyed the World 80 years ago. Maybe you are ?

Renato Canova wrote:

You speak as the criminal nazis who almost destroyed the World 80 years ago. Maybe you are ?

The criminal nazis? Oh, you mean the Italians who went to East Africa before, but for other reasons than juicing.

Exactly, those Italians as German people of Hitler as Japanese people, all people having the idea of the "superior race". The same for white criminals of Ku Klux Klan, or for British criminals deported to Australia that as first action put poison in the water used by aboriginals. Or the communists invading Hungary in 1956, and Czechoslovakia in 1968, putting in Venceslao Square a Tank as monument for celebrating the "new freedom". Or the dictators of South America (Pinochet) or Africa (Amin in Uganda, Mugabe in Zimbabwe).

Every human being who doesn't respect the Others can't be owner of real values, and in the last days I had the opportunity to read in LR some posts that are dreadful.

If there is a good percentage of those people (who are the real virus of the modern Society), without ethic, moral, solidarity and sympathy for other people, particularly who is less lucky than ourselves, I see a very dark future for our population, having as final goal money and business only, without knowing the sweet taste of acting for helping who has more necessity.

Your hypocrisy is disturbing : you swear on the Bible (which is a book of LOVE) but can kill everybody can't be useful at the moment because old or sick (or black…), you finish every discussion with "Can God help us" but with other people act like owner of their life, you destroy thousands of family with the actions of big multinationals playing with the virtual market looking at business only without respect for human sufferences, and wash your conscience giving some old equipment to African and Asian children.

When I read your posts, the only thing I can do is to vomit.

Renato,

I saw a small mention on CNN that there is some talk that Africans may have a bit more resistance to corona virus because a lot of them are taking anti-malarial medicines.

Have you heard anything about this??

Stay safe.

Racist racist racist racist, stop the virtue signalling nobody is impressed by that bullshit anymore in 2020 you old fool.

This is all just purely my opinion but when I see white European/American coaches going to Africa I think a few things;

1. They know the East Africans are genetically superior at running so it's an easier way to get some winners under their coaching plan than training European athletes.

2. They have more freedom to treat the East Africans as Lab rats for new experimental PEDs and they are so desperate they will do anything to themselves.

3. They see it as a massive opportunity to virtue signal showing them hugging and kissing Africans meanwhile doing underhanded unhealthy and dirty health damaging "tricks" which combined with the genetics of the Africans win races and set records.

Renato Canova wrote:

Exactly, those Italians as German people of Hitler as Japanese people, all people having the idea of the "superior race".

You mean the people who claim that East Africans are superior runners? That EPO doesn't work for them?

Who go to East Africa to juice entire tribes, without caring for their health? Who justify them doping these Africans, because in their sick mind they are only able to run fast and have no other means to earn a living?

Yeah, those people are the real racists.

1- No, I went the first time in 1998 as lecturer of IAAF for making new Kenyan coaches (and few years later this happened to ALL the Africa CoMeSa). I liked to work with people dedicated, and to teach them some more modern methodology. At the same time, I learnt from them HOW to interpret that methodology, and for me was something new.

Yes, they are strong but NOT genetically superior at running. The secret is that EVERYBODY tries running, and who has talent remains in athletics because they can change their lives, while many talents from Western Countries are absolutely NOT interested in running. So, in my opinion the difference is not genetic, but connected with the ambience and the mentality.

2- When I meet some European athlete accepting to work hard in altitude and to follow my training with continuity, I coach them. This is the case of Sondre Moen (27'24" and 2:05'48") from Norway, of Arne Gabius (13:13 and 2:08:33) from Germany, of Harry Summers (27'54") from Australia. And, for your knowledge, I coach athletes for free.

3- It's clear you don't know anything about Africa. Personally, I try to educate all the athletes to a form of activity where the most important "fuel" is the motivation to see where they can arrive using their personal strength only, and for that reason refusing any idea of doping. But I understand that, with your obsessed and stupid mentality, you can't understand how much strength you can find in yourself when your main goal is to show yourself that you are among the bests, if not the best, using your forces only.

4- Your English is too much complicated for me, and clearly I don't understand what you want to mean in your 3rd point. In any case, what you wrote is a total bullshit, showing the level of your brain is a little lower than the one of the monkey that was at the beginning of Ebola.

1- I don't claim East African are superior runners. The fact is THEY ARE, the reason, how I wrote above, is not genetic but connected with their way of living and their ambience.

2-I don't know anybody who went East Africa to juice entire tribes. I know people who went Australia to poison entire rivers for killing native people.

3- In all Africa there are plenty hospitals managed by Italian Missionaries having care for their health. This because they are people of very good heart, not because are Italian. And go to study some history about the colonialism in Africa of British in Kenya and Uganda, French in Algeria, Maroc and Tunisia, Portuguese in Angola, Italian in Abissinia (Ethiopia, Somalia and Eritrea). And about the "born of US" investing the Native Redskins. And about the South African apartheid. Did you never hear of Mandela ? Did you never know he used the World Championships of Rugby in 1995 for creating, finally, integration between white and black people ? Maybe you are a little bit retarded, and your cultural level is underground.