Just wondering how bad it is.
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90% of infected people won't even realize they got infected. Which of course poses a problem because you can still spread it to other people.
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Seriously mate? wrote:
90% of infected people won't even realize they got infected. Which of course poses a problem because you can still spread it to other people.
You can still spread something that 90% of people won't even notice? Sounds serious. -
You mean like the flu or a cold?
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100% of people don’t notice HIV when they are initially infected.
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Seriously mate? wrote:
100% of people don’t notice HIV when they are initially infected.
How many people recover from HIV on their own? 0.
Covid? Virtually every single person.
Nice strawman to induce panic. -
A Hungry, Violent Mob wrote:
Seriously mate? wrote:
90% of infected people won't even realize they got infected. Which of course poses a problem because you can still spread it to other people.
You can still spread something that 90% of people won't even notice? Sounds serious.
Yes. Cases are asymptomatic for a mean of 5 days, meaning that they could be spreading it before they even know that they have it.
One of the Diamond Princess passengers, a 65-year-old woman, had only a slightly elevated temperature of less than 100 degrees for less than 3 hours. That was her sole symptom. However, she was obviously fit and a cyclist. She mentioned going for a 20-mile bike ride, but it wasn't clear if that was a spin bike or a real bike. My point is that you could have it and not know it.
A health care professional in my state found that 16 out of about 100 people who attended an evening event got infected from one person. -
fisky wrote:
A Hungry, Violent Mob wrote:
Seriously mate? wrote:
90% of infected people won't even realize they got infected. Which of course poses a problem because you can still spread it to other people.
You can still spread something that 90% of people won't even notice? Sounds serious.
Yes. Cases are asymptomatic for a mean of 5 days, meaning that they could be spreading it before they even know that they have it.
One of the Diamond Princess passengers, a 65-year-old woman, had only a slightly elevated temperature of less than 100 degrees for less than 3 hours. That was her sole symptom. However, she was obviously fit and a cyclist. She mentioned going for a 20-mile bike ride, but it wasn't clear if that was a spin bike or a real bike. My point is that you could have it and not know it.
A health care professional in my state found that 16 out of about 100 people who attended an evening event got infected from one person.
Sorry you didn't seem to realize my sarcasm. I don't think this is a big deal at all. I think the infection rate is in the millions and nobody is dying, putting the death rate at a fraction of a fraction of the flu. It's no big deal. -
macdaddy wrote:
No one has ever seen anything like this.
100% if the impeachment effort was still going, this whole virus "pandemic" would be a footnote scrolling across the bottom of CNN's screen during primetime. -
I have a co-worker who has been out sick since Thursday and called in sick today.
He is coughing and has a fever.
He or his wife called some screening hotline and were told he didn’t need to be tested for Covid-19.
For whatever that's worth.
I can give updates on it.
This is a pretty good example of how we can't rely on any statistics.
He shows symptoms but hasn't tested positive because he hasn't been tested.
And he is not being encouraged to be tested, probably because tests are limited.
It may just be a bad and persistent cold.
Either way, the data on the virus isn't solid. -
Star wrote:
I have a co-worker who has been out sick since Thursday and called in sick today.
He is coughing and has a fever.
He or his wife called some screening hotline and were told he didn’t need to be tested for Covid-19.
For whatever that's worth.
I can give updates on it.
This is a pretty good example of how we can't rely on any statistics.
He shows symptoms but hasn't tested positive because he hasn't been tested.
And he is not being encouraged to be tested, probably because tests are limited.
It may just be a bad and persistent cold.
Either way, the data on the virus isn't solid.
Myself, and a number of my coworkers, and it turns out, a number of people on LRC battled an virus which was tested negative as flu in January. I firmly believe millions more have had this thing and because nobody could or would test for it, the fatality rate is incredibly inflated. Your friend should be counted and lower the fatality rate (hopefully). If he's not tested how can anyone stand behind the numbers being put out? -
I don't have it. I work with a guy from Iran. He says his brother in law last week died from it. He said Iran is not telling the truth on their numbers. He said many of his family back in Iran. Everything there is overwhelmed with it.
I'd like to think and hope he is not telling the truth. -
We had 4 or 5 people out with flu symptoms in February.
I'm not sure of their exact symptoms and I don't know if any of them went to a doctor to test for anything.
Again the data supporting any stats is faulty.
So I don't get involved in any of these stats arguments.
But the issue that this can easily be spread to more vulnerable people is still there.
Let's say my co-worker has it and comes to work.
I could get it and not get real sick but become contagious.
Then my 80 year old mother-in-law visits us and I spread it to her, not even knowing I had it.
Then maybe she gets very ill or dies from it. She's had the flu vaccine but there's no vaccine for this.
Two risk factors there:
Co-workers being near each other and an older woman leaving the house to visit her daughter. -
A Hungry, Violent Mob wrote:
If he's not tested how can anyone stand behind the numbers being put out?
You can make estimates based on data from countries like South Korea where they have tested much more. -
Star wrote:
Two risk factors there:
Co-workers being near each other and an older woman leaving the house to visit her daughter.
Why would an older woman visit anyone because it has been told that something like that is a no go. For example Britain plans to keep 70+ years old at home for 4 months and here in my work place for example we got e-mail where it was told that we should not invite anyone until May 31. The whole point is to be now alone and not visiting or inviting. -
No you can't. Not unless you count the mortality rate against their entire population. A test is a point in time snapshot.
Someone may be negative (and inflate the death rate) and then be positive and not tested again 5 days later.
And if you do count the mortality rate against their population the whole argument that this is dangerous goes right out the window. -
Bob schul country wrote:
Just wondering how bad it is.
I had it. It was bad. I died. -
Guessing I have it. My lungs have been hot for 2 weeks but no other real symptoms.
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Pretty sure I've had it. But I'll never know. Travelled to SF first week in Jan 6-10. Came down with 103 fever Jan 20-23. Fever would not go away for like 3 days. Felt ok, other than fever, overall. Body aches a bit. Wen tot urgent care on Jan 21, tested for flu, negative. Woke up most nights soaking wet with sweat. Fever kept down with advil. Then fever went away, and had a dry annoying cough for like a week and a half. Tried to run, but was just BEAT the entire time. HR was way up.
It wasn't horrible, but it was a really weird virus. So if it was COVID, I'd say it was pretty weird, not terrible, and took a solid two weeks to feel normal again.
But again, it could have been one of many URI's going around. I just think with travel to SF, the timing after that travel, and the symptoms... it makes some sense now looking back on it. -
My friend got it. He is an ER nurse, otherwise he never would have been allowed to be tested, since they're stingy with the testing kits. His symptoms were basically a typical cold, no fever. The county creator a list of who he might have exposed and it was hundreds of people, since it included patients and staff at the hospital he works at.
His coworker who also got it at the same time is hospitalized. Saying that 90% if people dont realize they have it might be true. But that also means that for every 9 who who no symptoms or only cold symptoms, 1 person is seriously ill.
