Just to add. Most Americans are having the exact (not similar) but exact same response as Europe had until it all went pear shaped... just saying. It will get real soon enough.
It's not the end of the world but it's something to take seriously.
Just to add. Most Americans are having the exact (not similar) but exact same response as Europe had until it all went pear shaped... just saying. It will get real soon enough.
It's not the end of the world but it's something to take seriously.
Facts Matter wrote:
https://imgur.com/YjrvEJuThese are the U. S. flu numbers since October 1, 2019 .
Imagine if these were the coronavirus numbers
Things people say:
Coronavirus is more deadly than the flu.
Apparently not since at least 20K have already died from the flu. If the media reported each flu death with a rolling ticker people would really ? themselves.
Coronavirus spreads faster than the flu.
With 34 million infected by the flu, in the U.S alone, in a 5 month span, there is no evidence that the coronavirus is more infectious than the flu and much evidence to the contrary.
Coronavirus has a higher death rate than the flu.
The flu death rate is calculated by using the total number of estimated flu illnesses, people are reporting the coronavirus death rate based on only known cases and is not indicative of how many are actually infected. That number would realistically be in the millions if testing were possible and/or available, which would make the actual death rate extremely low.
Everyone is ?'ing themselves over a virus that has shown no serious threat to public health. There are clusters of infections because when they find one, they start testing more people and thus find more infected. Those people are not dropping dead, yet people are still overreacting. Meanwhile, people are literally dropping dead every day from influenza and no one says a word. The same elderly population that is being affected by the coronavirus, is dying from the flu at a rate of more than 100X - and no one is hoarding toilet paper and scrubbing their skin off because of it.
Please, for the love of God...
Take a step back...
Look at the facts...
and...
CALM THE F**K DOWN!
lol u such a dumb f*ck i ain't even gonna respond to this. STFU and sit down
I have a dumb dumb stuck to my ass wrote:
https://giftarticle.ft.com/giftarticle/actions/redeem/206dbae2-a9d6-4955-bff9-2c2e3847f4be
lol STFU and sit down
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/coronavirus-herd-immunity-uk-covid-19-pandemic-outbreak-flu-a9400171.htmlIntelligent response. I take it you think too much
dunes runner wrote:
knox harrington wrote:
Italy, 3 weeks ago: 5 known covid cases.
Italy, now: over 1,000 covid deaths, too many critical patients to treat, and each day brings more newly confirmed cases than the last despite severe containment measures.
This is a great example of how governments and health care systems are making the situation much worse.
How so?
Perhaps I should have said daycare? And yes, my wife is an ID physician with a degree in epidemiology. Why exactly is that so hard to believe?
US numbers have been revised downward by Johns Hopkins, ~1650 to ~1250 and deaths down to 31, with the ones in California deleted. Could be "presumed" positives turning out negative, or doctors deciding cause of death was something else?
Fastest growth now in Italy, Spain, France, Switzerland. No offense to Europe but I've always heard bathing is a less regular thing there. Wash yer hands!
On the log graph of non-China cases, yesterday looks anomalous but may be a gap in reporting. Today is still consistent with the concave-down trend since late February.
Germany is champion of not dying with 3156 cases and only 7 deaths for a rate of 0.2%.
https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6
Marta L wrote:
Fentrekker wrote:
Over the next year it is likely that half of Americans will contract the virus
Literally no evidence for this. These viruses don't grow exponentially for infinity.
Sadly you are mistaken Marta. It is not difficult to find this information. I happen to be married to an NIH staff member and trust this information implicitly.
Draymond wrote:
lol u such a dumb f*ck i ain't even gonna respond to this. STFU and sit down
Only a true dumbfuck would say that they are not going to respond while responding.
https://t2.rbxcdn.com/44f1090fda8d017a05132996f842579cDraymond wrote:
Javman wrote:
You're spot on. Modern day Americans have become scared of their own shadows. I'm in my 50s and have seen this developing for the past 30 years. One crisis to the next. Liberal/progressive/communists that control the media arguing for ever growing government to be a nanny to every whim of all the snowflakes of the world, feeding off the hard work and discipline of those of us who actually work for a living and don't seek to impose our needs for material goods upon others.
Sick and tired of American snowflakes. Let em starve.
lol u so offended snowflake. typical dumb old f*ck.
reported
read my mind. Javman, how about the hardworking/disciplined people that are getting laid off because of this? are they just losers/communists looking for government handouts?
https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2020/03/13/coronavirus-firms-announced-nearly-900-layoffs-because-pandemic/5043049002/the impacts of this go beyond health, which is a reason people i know are freaking out. but you know, it isn't you, so "let em starve".
Finland is tiny with low population densityvand little contactcwith china. 300 is a lot of cases. Italy and spain are high sensity with lots of.commercial contact with china. They have better healthcare than finland and fewer alcoholics and wife beaters.
These data clearly indicate the threat of COVID-19 vs flu this year:
https://twitter.com/AndyBiotech/status/1238443316401909760?s=20
Bad Wigins wrote:
US numbers have been revised downward by Johns Hopkins, ~1650 to ~1250 and deaths down to 31, with the ones in California deleted. Could be "presumed" positives turning out negative, or doctors deciding cause of death was something else?
Fastest growth now in Italy, Spain, France, Switzerland. No offense to Europe but I've always heard bathing is a less regular thing there. Wash yer hands!
On the log graph of non-China cases, yesterday looks anomalous but may be a gap in reporting. Today is still consistent with the concave-down trend since late February.
Germany is champion of not dying with 3156 cases and only 7 deaths for a rate of 0.2%.
https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6
Agreed that JHU removed the CA numbers, but it makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. Most populous state in the country with huge number international travelers and no occurrences of a Covid-19 or deaths related to it. Something is wrong with the data or website.
knox harrington wrote:
Italy, 3 weeks ago: 5 known covid cases.
Italy, now: over 1,000 covid deaths, too many critical patients to treat, and each day brings more newly confirmed cases than the last despite severe containment measures.
dunes runner wrote:
This is a great example of how governments and health care systems are making the situation much worse.
knox harrington wrote:
How so?
Because their bumbling, ,authoritarian, and ignorant interventions increased the death rate by 200 times.
Fentrekker wrote:
Over the next year it is likely that half of Americans will contract the virus
Marta L wrote:
Literally no evidence for this. These viruses don't grow exponentially for infinity.
Fentrekker wrote:
Sadly you are mistaken Marta. It is not difficult to find this information. I happen to be married to an NIH staff member and trust this information implicitly.
I agree with Marta. There is zero reliable evidence for all of the baseless conjecture.
foo wrote:
Agreed that JHU removed the CA numbers, but it makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. Most populous state in the country with huge number international travelers and no occurrences of a Covid-19 or deaths related to it. Something is wrong with the data or website.
It does make sense, because California is not quarantining people and forcing them to have shots.
dunes runner wrote:
Fentrekker wrote:
Over the next year it is likely that half of Americans will contract the virus
Marta L wrote:
Literally no evidence for this. These viruses don't grow exponentially for infinity.
Fentrekker wrote:
Sadly you are mistaken Marta. It is not difficult to find this information. I happen to be married to an NIH staff member and trust this information implicitly.
I agree with Marta. There is zero reliable evidence for all of the baseless conjecture.
Exactly.
We know that 20,000+ in the USA have died from the flu since October and no one is freaking out. We know that 33 have died from the coronavirus in the USA and people are freaking the F**K out.
Those are the facts. What the virus will or will not do is pure speculation and people should not be fighting each other at COSTCO over toilet paper because of it.
You are better than this sheeple! ?
Facts Matter wrote:
dunes runner wrote:
I agree with Marta. There is zero reliable evidence for all of the baseless conjecture.
Exactly.
We know that 20,000+ in the USA have died from the flu since October and no one is freaking out. We know that 33 have died from the coronavirus in the USA and people are freaking the F**K out.
Those are the facts. What the virus will or will not do is pure speculation and people should not be fighting each other at COSTCO over toilet paper because of it.
You are better than this sheeple! ?
Wake the f**k up.
The coronavirus is coming to you.
It’s coming at an exponential speed: gradually, and then suddenly.
It’s a matter of days. Maybe a week or two.
When it does, your healthcare system will be overwhelmed.
Your fellow citizens will be treated in the hallways.
Exhausted healthcare workers will break down. Some will die.
They will have to decide which patient gets the oxygen and which one dies.
The only way to prevent this is social distancing today. Not tomorrow. Today.
That means keeping as many people home as possible, starting now.
As a politician, community leader or business leader, you have the power and the responsibility to prevent this.
You might have fears today: What if I overreact? Will people laugh at me? Will they be angry at me? Will I look stupid? Won’t it be better to wait for others to take steps first? Will I hurt the economy too much?
But in 2–4 weeks, when the entire world is in lockdown, when the few precious days of social distancing you will have enabled will have saved lives, people won’t criticize you anymore: They will thank you for making the right decision.
Facts Matter wrote:
Armstronglivs wrote:
And you are a tedious narcissist - and no one's friend.
Maybe, maybe not, but completely irrelevant.
I would never expect a factual response from you anyway because you are incapable of doing so. It's well known that you lack the ability to think for yourself, you rely on what other people think, say and do to form your opinions. So, let me help you with your next post.
If what you say were true ___________ would have done ___________.
If what you say were true ___________ would have said ____________.
There you go, just fill in the blanks. No thought required... as usual.
No facts, only opinion. Still a narcissist.