Calm the F**K Down! - What is wrong with everyone?

sp2 wrote:

You're just an a**hole, Wig. Nothing more. But you're an *exceptional* a**hole, and you're tremendously *proud* of yourself for being an a**hole --which makes you an even BIGGER a**hole.

You're also not just an ordinary, completely inconsequential a**hole; you're the kind of a**hole whose a**holery does actual *harm*.

That's why I, and lots of the other decent and rational folks here really f***ing despise you, yes.

All around the world now, people are dying and suffering horribly who did not need to.

In another few days, they're going to be doing the same here at home in great numbers.

In great part, that's because of a**holes like you, who were vastly more interested in flogging their d*cks on web-forums, injecting a little twisted joy into their utterly *pathetic* lives by pissing off decent folks and arguing against them, and looking for ways to *profit* on the suffering of others, than in what was actually happening and what the consequences would be.

If we didn't have a vile piece of human garbage as President, and didn't have millions of other vile pieces of human garbage --like you-- amplifying his criminal stupidity all around the country, we could and would have taken measures to head off or slow down this catastrophe.

Exposing a**holes like you for what you are is a public *service.* It's constructive and valuable.

It's a bit of a moral *obligation*.

If you don't like it, that's too f***ing bad.

In any case, you've really ceased to matter at *all* now. You've been exposed about as badly as you can be, and it just keeps getting worse.

Very shortly now, NO ONE will be paying more attention to imbecilic a**holes like you.

All we can do is try to forget you, and hope that maybe d*cks like you were actually practicing the horse-sh*t you preached, and that therefore a disproportionate number of you will be among the first to get sick and disappear.

(That would one tiny 'silver lining,' I guess.)

Now f*ck off for the rest of eternity.

coronasceptic wrote:

sp2 wrote:

You're just an a**hole, Wig. Nothing more. But you're an *exceptional* a**hole, and you're tremendously *proud* of yourself for being an a**hole --which makes you an even BIGGER a**hole.

You're also not just an ordinary, completely inconsequential a**hole; you're the kind of a**hole whose a**holery does actual *harm*.

That's why I, and lots of the other decent and rational folks here really f***ing despise you, yes.

All around the world now, people are dying and suffering horribly who did not need to.

In another few days, they're going to be doing the same here at home in great numbers.

In great part, that's because of a**holes like you, who were vastly more interested in flogging their d*cks on web-forums, injecting a little twisted joy into their utterly *pathetic* lives by pissing off decent folks and arguing against them, and looking for ways to *profit* on the suffering of others, than in what was actually happening and what the consequences would be.

If we didn't have a vile piece of human garbage as President, and didn't have millions of other vile pieces of human garbage --like you-- amplifying his criminal stupidity all around the country, we could and would have taken measures to head off or slow down this catastrophe.

Exposing a**holes like you for what you are is a public *service.* It's constructive and valuable.

It's a bit of a moral *obligation*.

If you don't like it, that's too f***ing bad.

In any case, you've really ceased to matter at *all* now. You've been exposed about as badly as you can be, and it just keeps getting worse.

Very shortly now, NO ONE will be paying more attention to imbecilic a**holes like you.

All we can do is try to forget you, and hope that maybe d*cks like you were actually practicing the horse-sh*t you preached, and that therefore a disproportionate number of you will be among the first to get sick and disappear.

(That would one tiny 'silver lining,' I guess.)

Now f*ck off for the rest of eternity.

Wow - that was persuasive! I might have to rethink my coronascepticism.....

Allen53 wrote:

The dangerous air, soil and water pollution are the major factors that make our societies unhealthy, sick and weak living with compromised immune systems to varying of degrees and hence vulnerable to disease.

Most of working people’s immune systems in US, China, Iran and EU and worldwide are weak as people are being continuously exposed to toxins and exploited to exhaustion.

However, attributing to Coronavirus as a cause to continuously occurring deaths associated with other ailments or conditions or weakness of immune system for other reasons is a manipulative and dishonest way to stoke more fear of high mortality of pandemic victims while data is still insufficient to make such judgments.

Combined effect of pollution, dangerous living conditions, utter poverty of nutrition loaded with toxins packaged into food substitutes, abhorrent state of public heath system and extreme social stress due to inherent instability of capitalist economy as well as imposed cruel exploitative social relations destroying family and community life already before Coronavirus entered the stage, caused catastrophic effects of millions dead worldwide including those otherwise preventable victims of yearly flu pandemic.

All that on the top of daily psychological torture executed by most media propaganda outfits peddling 24/7 fear, division, distrust and hate among people. All that in order to stoke immunity suppressing fear.

The death rate of SARS-Cov 2 does not reflect virility or lethality of virus but state of health among population and failing capability and treatment of other diseases by public health system amid utter failure of for profit healthcare system.

In fact upper ceiling of death rate from current grossly insufficient data in the US is about 1.2% likely well below 1% closer to that of flu of 0.1% to 0.2%.

But true death rates still are and likely will always be unknown mostly because people are not being tested precisely and those deaths can be misattributed to Covid and not merely to preexisting conditions and catastrophic failure of public heath system, like hospital emergency shut down, unable to cope with volume.

The lock downs that supposedly mean that infection is widely spread already are ignored by authorities or applied in variety of conflicting ways.

It's not only the moronic Trump administration response that purposefully refused to enact containment and contact tracking as early as in first days of January that does not make sense, but also state responses to supposed deadly pandemic do not make scientific sense amid lack of critical data published as we are told to take all of it in faith.

It is confusing, unless we look at what is going on in political, economic and financial realms where real panic and real present and well documented danger to people who are massively losing jobs and livelihoods and even starvation will certainly lead to further disruptions in social cohesion.

One must then ask questions. Is this all or in part a hoax or excuse as a part of disaster capitalism ?

Is this coronavirus pandemic at similar levels of threat as more aggressive strains of flu which already killed over 30,000 in US since October 2019?

?️Facts Matter wrote:

Interesting reading through this thread after almost 2 weeks. So many predictions of doom, so many epic fails.

Facts Matter wrote:

Hospital beds won't be overtaxed, there will be plenty of healthcare providers. Why? Because people are not getting sick, they are getting infected. When the media starts reporting HOW MANY ARE SICK AND REQUIRE MEDICAL ATTENTION, as opposed to HOW MANY HAVE BEEN INFECTED, maybe the tiny brains like you can stop wetting your pants and make reasonable decisions based on facts!

"The hospitals really are at the point of getting extremely pressed and perhaps being overwhelmed in cities like New York right now," said Gottlieb, a CNBC contributor who sits on the boards of Pfizer and biotech company Illumina. "Once that happens then the mortality rate is going to start to increase. It's going to accelerate."

While New York City is among the first American cities to have a major epidemic, Gottlieb warned that the virus will likely spread to other cities, which should begin preparing now. Gottlieb mentioned Miami, Atlanta, New Orleans and Chicago as possible sites of epidemics.

New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo said Tuesday that the state has about 3,000 to 4,000 ventilators, a potentially lifesaving device that helps patients breathe, and has purchased about 7,000 more, but it needs a minimum of 30,000 additional ventilators. He added that the state could need up to 140,000 hospital beds in 14 to 21 days. He said the state currently has about 53,000 hospital beds.

self isolate now wrote:

?️Facts Matter wrote:

Interesting reading through this thread after almost 2 weeks. So many predictions of doom, so many epic fails.

Yeah let's talk about epic fails of predictions, so I glanced at page 1 of the thread and saw this:

Facts Matter wrote:

Hospital beds won't be overtaxed, there will be plenty of healthcare providers. Why? Because people are not getting sick, they are getting infected. When the media starts reporting HOW MANY ARE SICK AND REQUIRE MEDICAL ATTENTION, as opposed to HOW MANY HAVE BEEN INFECTED, maybe the tiny brains like you can stop wetting your pants and make reasonable decisions based on facts!

Ignoring the fact that Italy and Spain have been well past this breaking point for a while, you can find plenty of stories now about how this is happening or about to happen in the USA. Example from New York

"The hospitals really are at the point of getting extremely pressed and perhaps being overwhelmed in cities like New York right now," said Gottlieb, a CNBC contributor who sits on the boards of Pfizer and biotech company Illumina. "Once that happens then the mortality rate is going to start to increase. It's going to accelerate."

While New York City is among the first American cities to have a major epidemic, Gottlieb warned that the virus will likely spread to other cities, which should begin preparing now. Gottlieb mentioned Miami, Atlanta, New Orleans and Chicago as possible sites of epidemics.

New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo said Tuesday that the state has about 3,000 to 4,000 ventilators, a potentially lifesaving device that helps patients breathe, and has purchased about 7,000 more, but it needs a minimum of 30,000 additional ventilators. He added that the state could need up to 140,000 hospital beds in 14 to 21 days. He said the state currently has about 53,000 hospital beds.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/25/new-york-city-hospitals-are-nearly-maxed-out-former-fda-chief-says.html

Facts Matter wrote:

https://imgur.com/YjrvEJu

These are the U. S. flu numbers since October 1, 2019 .

Imagine if these were the coronavirus numbers

Things people say:

Coronavirus is more deadly than the flu.

Apparently not since at least 20K have already died from the flu. If the media reported each flu death with a rolling ticker people would really ? themselves.

Coronavirus spreads faster than the flu.

With 34 million infected by the flu, in the U.S alone, in a 5 month span, there is no evidence that the coronavirus is more infectious than the flu and much evidence to the contrary.

Coronavirus has a higher death rate than the flu.

The flu death rate is calculated by using the total number of estimated flu illnesses, people are reporting the coronavirus death rate based on only known cases and is not indicative of how many are actually infected. That number would realistically be in the millions if testing were possible and/or available, which would make the actual death rate extremely low.

Everyone is ?'ing themselves over a virus that has shown no serious threat to public health. There are clusters of infections because when they find one, they start testing more people and thus find more infected. Those people are not dropping dead, yet people are still overreacting. Meanwhile, people are literally dropping dead every day from influenza and no one says a word. The same elderly population that is being affected by the coronavirus, is dying from the flu at a rate of more than 100X - and no one is hoarding toilet paper and scrubbing their skin off because of it.

Please, for the love of God...

Take a step back...

Look at the facts...

and...

CALM THE F**K DOWN!

Its about incremental improvements wrote:

Facts Matter wrote:

https://imgur.com/YjrvEJu

These are the U. S. flu numbers since October 1, 2019 .

Imagine if these were the coronavirus numbers

Things people say:

Coronavirus is more deadly than the flu.

Apparently not since at least 20K have already died from the flu. If the media reported each flu death with a rolling ticker people would really ? themselves.

Coronavirus spreads faster than the flu.

With 34 million infected by the flu, in the U.S alone, in a 5 month span, there is no evidence that the coronavirus is more infectious than the flu and much evidence to the contrary.

Coronavirus has a higher death rate than the flu.

The flu death rate is calculated by using the total number of estimated flu illnesses, people are reporting the coronavirus death rate based on only known cases and is not indicative of how many are actually infected. That number would realistically be in the millions if testing were possible and/or available, which would make the actual death rate extremely low.

Everyone is ?'ing themselves over a virus that has shown no serious threat to public health. There are clusters of infections because when they find one, they start testing more people and thus find more infected. Those people are not dropping dead, yet people are still overreacting. Meanwhile, people are literally dropping dead every day from influenza and no one says a word. The same elderly population that is being affected by the coronavirus, is dying from the flu at a rate of more than 100X - and no one is hoarding toilet paper and scrubbing their skin off because of it.

Please, for the love of God...

Take a step back...

Look at the facts...

and...

CALM THE F**K DOWN!

This has not aged well....

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