Some remarks on the Corona virus – Greetings from Denmark

When the dead are buried (including those who died of other causes) there are no flights to/from the site. Everyday tasks have huge obstacles, everyone needs PPE, not just hospitals.

Ok, I understand what you're saying however, the staff seems to be exhausted and there are fewer of them as they get sick.

Cuomo just held another press conference talking about additional problems as case numbers keep expanding, and the refusal to use federal powers that only trump has.

Coach, you bring up a good point that is on our radar here too - the concern that staff will be lost to sickness. In fact, here they are taking our temps at limited entrances and if it’s 100 or more we have to go home for 2 weeks. Just based on that. No test no symptoms. Health care workers are always exhausted. This issue may help us to create a better culture of health care in the future.

Jesse, you are really damaging. We as a health care system will absorb this. A lot of great hardworking people making sure you survive to yell at us. You need to realize that much of what you are hearing are normal processes of triage, transfer, preparation, etc. we are used to it.

On the news they're showing long lines at drive through testing centers and mentioned that one reached its capacity before it opened.

No doubt many people are panicking, if you could drive yourself and wait 4 hours to be tested you're probably not dying. Nevertheless this just exhausts the health care system and workers.

You’re a troll. It doesn’t start or end at the hospital, hospitals aren’t even a factor in this recession (since they’re actually busier).

No one is keeping me healthy, I’m in healthcare (caregiver for disabled). I have no PPE & neither does my client, our families, or anyone I see. My employer has none to offer. You’re a disinformation troll.

another fact wrote:

Coach, all these things are the panic preparation, not the reality. All our elective surgeries are cancelled, clinics cancelled, lab and imaging shut down too, but there is no flood of patients.

When you hear about shut downs, that doesn’t mean it’s shut down due to coronavirus illnesses. It’s the reaction to the fear. That’s what this whole conversation is about. Are we reacting without proper data? Yes. Are hospitals overreacting? Yes. Is the reaction a function of actual illness? No. Not at all in the United States. There are plenty of empty beds waiting. There are no overwhelmed hospitals,. Our hospital staff is definitely overwhelmed with hundreds of pages of new regulations that change multiple times a day. Everyone is meeting 24/7. But so far no flood.

And why are they doing "panic preparation"? France is transfering patients through special planes and special trains to deal with the overwhelmed hospitals in the worst regions. We are not talking your standard helicopter transfer, one at a time, we are talking moving patients hundreds of miles away. Italy is already past that point. NY is just a few days before that. Maybe it's time to panic prepare, after all.

Italy as of 2017, with an elderly population, has a death rate significantly higher than the U.S. at 10.4/1000, in comparison to the U.S. at, I think, 8.2. That means that a bit more than 1/100 Italians die in a given year. With a national population of about 60 million, that means that roughly 600,000 die per year in a normal year. That is about 1643 people per day. Yesterday alone over 600 people died in Italy from Coronavirus and over 6,000 have died from it, most of them in the past two weeks. So, there is clearly a lot of extra mortality in those numbers beyond the normal, which is why they are storing bodies in churches and so forth and their hospitals overrun. If our politicians wanted to be able to know just what the situation was in this country and to be able to isolate those who are carrying the disease and all those they've been in contact with over the past two weeks, we could beat this quickly. As it is, tests are very hard to come by and there is no national coordinated action. The exponential growth of the cases tells us very clearly that we are going to be seeing very big numbers within the next ten days, not merely of positives, but deaths. Already with partial reporting today, the cases surpassed 48,000 in the U.S., with 5,000 additional over night, and so, it seems we are going to be continuing 30+% growth per day by tonight, and that rate applies to deaths as well.

Thank you for reasoning with them.

Hi Jesse. We have plenty of masks. I’m sorry you don’t. I don’t want you or the clients you care for to get sick. Let me know where I can send you some since your company is ill-prepared. I will honestly send you some.

I’m certain you didn’t run out due to coronavirus. I’m certain you were not frantically changing your mask as you waxed through bodies of ill patients. Just didn’t keep your supply up?

You can send them to my state or any state. Sooner or later it will hit everywhere. You can send them to France, where 3 doctors have died. Perhaps you’re unaware that Mike Pence (he’s our Vice President) requested construction companies forgo masks & send all the ones they had (grossly inadequate for viruses) to the Task Force, trumpanzee, disinformation troll, liar.

Or you could send them to 3M, who makes them and is sure they can’t keep up & I guess they would know.

Be sure to alert the media that you have lots of masks so every nation in the world can line up for some, not to mention dozens of posters here on LetsRun.

I am a nurse and I can't believe you. I wish I could

coach wrote:

On the news they're showing long lines at drive through testing centers and mentioned that one reached its capacity before it opened.

No doubt many people are panicking, if you could drive yourself and wait 4 hours to be tested you're probably not dying. Nevertheless this just exhausts the health care system and workers.

Yeah, my news keeps running stories about the sites in NJ quickly reaching capacity as if it's proof that tons and tons of people have the virus. But I'm pretty sure in NJ they let anyone drive up regardless of how benign their perceived symptoms are, whereas in NY you need to call and make an appointment and be approved to come. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but at one point those were the rules in NJ vs. NY.

Agree with you on this. Weird how CDC changes it's numbers even within a given year.

jesseriley wrote:

Be sure to alert the media that you have lots of masks so every nation in the world can line up for some, not to mention dozens of posters here on LetsRun.

What a clown...

29 doctors dead in Italy from the virus. Guessing they could have used some of those abundant masks that disinformation trolls claim to have.

5000 healthcare providers in Italy are infected.

Dude is on the “4 Million/NY Subway” thread with additional disinformation dipshi+ stuff.