Harvard NCAA TF qualifiers scratched from NCAAs without consent

ACC just suspended all athletics. Presumably this applies to the track meet. Ivy gets props for being first.

Who cares... You go to school to get an education. No one goes pro.

At least it got them into school.

Good lesson in rolling with the punches as that's what real life is like

If I was them I would just have said haha nah and hopped on a different flight. Does anyone know if they’re trying to show up? Can we donate/ help them? I bet they’ll be able to protest and get in?

sound like future NIMBYs in the making. I'm sure these bright individuals (no sarcasm) can rationally assess the situation and understand why these sorts of precautions are being taken and are good for the greatest amount of people. Yeah, it sucks when you and yours are personally affected, but it was good to see Harvard ahead of the curve here. Given the past 36 hours, they've clearly been proven right. You may be super healthy/young and capable of withstanding the virus, but you can still act as a vector and help spread to folks who will die.

Look at South Korea's response/result vs. Italy's; which do you want the US to be? And what is necessary to end up like the former and not the latter? We know that canceling large gatherings of people is important, so that's what's happening here...specially gatherings where people are contained indoors, in close proximity/touching each other, even spitting! Sounds like a breeding ground frankly.

And, let's be real: if you qualified for NCAAs but felt a little 'off' (head cold/chills or something), you'd almost certainly still go, let alone if you were asymptomatic and capable of spreading without your knowledge.

they run for harvard. they dont run harvard.

You are wrong, Harvard was wrong and the NCAA was wrong. The teams had already arrived at the meet, they already practiced in the area with all of the other athletes competing.

All of the athletes at this meet can get a pro contract and the size of that contract depends on how they would have done at this meet. By denying them the opportunity to compete, all of their contracts will be smaller.

Nobody is forcing the athletes to compete. They are adults, they can make their own educated decision. We shouldn't make it for them.

I'm inclined to agree with this. Perhaps there was an intellligent argument in favor of allowing the athletes to go to the meet under the circumstances then in place, but I don't believe that I have seen it.

In any event, the instagram comment to which the original post was linked has since been amended, and now reads as follows:

annajuul16

Harvard just scratched me, @abbegold, and @kierunner from NCAAs against our will. We found out 10 minutes before we were supposed to leave for the airport. Despite every effort from our athletic department to advocate for us, official policy from the University president (which is way more extreme than other Ivy League schools) won out. Beyond disappointed in this institution which seems more interested in liability and haphazard policy than the lives and wellbeing of its students.

Update: with NCAAs canceled, it’s clear that this was bigger than Harvard. While I’m still upset with how this was handled by those across the river, and I still believe there were larger politics at play, I also understand that at this moment, the ultimate goal is more than valid.

albanese wrote:

All of the athletes at this meet can get a pro contract and the size of that contract depends on how they would have done at this meet. By denying them the opportunity to compete, all of their contracts will be smaller.

I would guess that the size of the "pro contract" for the sixteenth seed in the women's weight throw will be unaffected by this cancellation.

This is wrong too. The NCAA, Harvard, and the Ivy League all jumped the gun. If people want to compete, have them sign a waiver. This is America, where individual rights trump all, and the government and other big governing bodies shouldn't be making those decisions for us. The government still allows people to smoke cigarettes which have been proven 100% cause cancer. Football is way more dangerous than coronavirus to young people when you factor in concussions, yet the NCAA is happy to profit off of people giving each other brain damage. Nobody complains about that.

There are less than 3000 out of 350 MILLION in the entire country that have the virus. The risk to young people is incredibly low. Let the adults make adult decisions.

Avocado's Number wrote:

albanese wrote:

All of the athletes at this meet can get a pro contract and the size of that contract depends on how they would have done at this meet. By denying them the opportunity to compete, all of their contracts will be smaller.

I would guess that the size of the "pro contract" for the sixteenth seed in the women's weight throw will be unaffected by this cancellation.

Wrong. The 16th seed would have been an All-American if she got a legal mark. Now she CANNOT be an All-American. All-American honors make pro contracts bigger. Additionally, she had an opportunity to potentially win the meet if she peaked at the right time, that would have greatly increased her contract.

Not to mention throwing at altitude would surely have resulted in a personal best performance because the air is thinner.

albanese wrote:

Avocado's Number wrote:

I would guess that the size of the "pro contract" for the sixteenth seed in the women's weight throw will be unaffected by this cancellation.

Wrong. The 16th seed would have been an All-American if she got a legal mark. Now she CANNOT be an All-American. All-American honors make pro contracts bigger.

Rhetorical question: How much is ten times zero?

Avocado's Number wrote:

albanese wrote:

Wrong. The 16th seed would have been an All-American if she got a legal mark. Now she CANNOT be an All-American. All-American honors make pro contracts bigger.

Rhetorical question: How much is ten times zero?

Considering usually 50% or more of the field in the throws is foreign, so the 16th best is still probably in the top 2 or 3 in nation for her country.

KT looks like an idiot now.

How did he even get into Harvard? I put him on Mount Rushmore of Idiots with Trump and that Jazz Guard.