Steve Boyd fired from Queens University in Ontario

Is there a reason why a coach criticizing a a school's handing of sexual assault is a GOOD thing?

I retract my statement.

Nado Con Tiburones wrote:

I am so proud of my alma mater for ensuring that Steve Boyd is never allowed inside their track centre.

Steve Boyd kicked out of the track center at York University by security:

1. He was let it the next day.

2 Where have you been? This was all covered in the past couple of weeks, with arguments and counter arguments.

I see, your comments were removed, so you started another thread.

Why retract? Am I missing something here? How is this not an outrageous injustice by Queens and York against Boyd? Do they have reason to blackball him other than his comments against DST?

Are you being sarcastic? Or did you you actually run for Guelph?

Outrageous how Queens treated Boyd.

It's not outrageous. Many organizations have clauses in employee contracts that prohibit an employee's damaging the organization's reputation. It's pretty hard to suggest that Boyd didn't damage the reputation of Queen's when he posted the things he did, let alone on the personal social media pages of former University of Guelph students.

Most organizations also have formal, progressive processes for disciplining employees, and from the information available (e.g. in the CBC article regarding Boyd's termination) Boyd likely exhausted his chances of remaining an employee.

Please note this has nothing to do with his ability to coach or what/who he was critiquing. Had he made a reasonable public statement about getting the Dave Scott-Thomas's out of our sport, he'd still be an employee.

PS - it's also not a "free speech" issue. Employers, even ones funded by the government as a university such as Queen's is, are permitted to terminate employees who violate the terms of their contract.

I heard a little bit about this story.

Canadians must learn to separate freedom of speech in their private time and believing this is

somehow connected to employment.

Someone says something on facebook, big deal.

Unless they are at work, i.e. lets say I am representing Petro Canada and am speaking on Petro Canada's facebook as an employee of Petro Canada:

And I say something which is quite offensive.

Then maybe I should get a warning from my employer and if I continue to behave taht way, I should be let go.

But we are all entitled to our views and opinions on our private time.

When we work for an employer we should be vigilant yet when we go home we are free to say as we wish.

Emoloyer does not pay for our opinions on our private time. They pay us for the work we do at work.

Shame on Queens that's about all I have to say. Pathetic on them.

Drama Queens they should rename their institution.

No. No corporation wants some obvious racist or sexist representing them. They can, and should, fire such a person. However, that is not the case with Boyd. He was calling for better behavior on the part of the university.

donairs wrote:

No. No corporation wants some obvious racist or sexist representing them. They can, and should, fire such a person.

Many then must be fired from arrogant right wing Corus Entertainment which has been breaking section 14 of the Canadian Code of Advertising Standards since August 3, 2018. Without a long overdue penalty. CRTC doesn't care they allow their broadcast license to exist when it shouldn't.

92.5 in Edmonton calls itself 'The Chuck' which is basically asserting a feeling of superiority over those with Ukrainian ancestry. It is true there are many in Edmonton who are familiar with that remark however for a radio station to use it as their identity takes things too far.

Canadian Code of Advertising Standards:

Section 14:

14. Unacceptable Depictions and Portrayals

It is recognized that advertisements may be distasteful without necessarily conflicting with the provisions of this Clause 14; and the fact that a particular product or service may be offensive to some people is not sufficient grounds for objecting to an advertisement for that product or service.

Advertisements shall not:

(a) condone any form of personal discrimination, including discrimination based upon race, national or ethnic origin, religion, gender identity, sex or sexual orientation, age or disability;

(b) appear in a realistic manner to exploit, condone or incite violence; nor appear to condone, or directly encourage, bullying; nor directly encourage, or exhibit obvious indifference to, unlawful behaviour;

(c) demean, denigrate or disparage one or more identifiable persons, group of persons, firms, organizations, industrial or commercial activities, professions, entities, products or services, or attempt to bring it or them into public contempt or ridicule;

(d) undermine human dignity; or display obvious indifference to, or encourage, gratuitously and without merit, conduct or attitudes that offend the standards of public decency prevailing among a significant segment of the population.

Canada is two faced, still a lot of ethnic discrimination and blatant racism as in the example I have mentioned.

Corus can go straight to hell, they are bigots and losers.

LOL You went to York? LOLLLL

I know nothing about Steve Boyd beyond what I've read regarding the DST fiasco, but it's pretty clear he lacks the judgement and maturity expected for a University level coach.

Why is someone in their mid 40s spending so much time on Facebook trying so hard to get attention?

I may have had some sympathy for the argument that Queens overreacted by firing him. However, showing up at an OUA event less than a month after his dismissal demonstrates that this guy lacks basic common sense. Good riddance.

Rumor goes they are taking in the magic JS coach from Sweden!

adult_here wrote:

I may have had some sympathy for the argument that Queens overreacted by firing him. However, showing up at an OUA event less than a month after his dismissal demonstrates that this guy lacks basic common sense. Good riddance.

Are you serious? He was asked to leave a track meet. What was he doing that was wrong?

Boyd was warned for his behaviour many times, sometimes with respect to DST but also other issues. He was given a *final warning*, as he himself recounted. In the warning he was told specifically to stop posting on letsrun and trackie. So he goes to Facebook and does the same thing.

He is a clown with bumblebees in his pants. Anyone with the sense God gave a goat would have known this was not acceptable. If there were any doubt, he could have asked his HR, or AD, or other, contact.

He provoked conflict with his employer, broke the terms of employment and got fired. And now he is having tantrums. A lot of people have some growing up to do, and SB is absolutely one of them.

Steve, go to the track meets.

If they ask you to leave, tell them you'll wait for the cops.

If the cops get there, tell them to quit wasting taxpayer dollars.

This should have never happened.

There's a lot of speculation about work scenarios from a guy who does not. Tell us what it's like to give birth.