The New York state meet is the "Hunger Games" of high school track & field.
Two 'tributes' from each district, no matter how ill-prepared they are to compete, or how many years in a row the tributes from the outlying districts traditionally get slaughtered in the arena.
Haymitch Abernathy wrote:
The New York state meet is the "Hunger Games" of high school track & field.
Two 'tributes' from each district, no matter how ill-prepared they are to compete, or how many years in a row the tributes from the outlying districts traditionally get slaughtered in the arena.
It keeps interest in the sport throughout the entire state. Minus the one or two sections that really have absolutely nothing.
Haymitch Abernathy wrote:
The New York state meet is the "Hunger Games" of high school track & field.
Two 'tributes' from each district, no matter how ill-prepared they are to compete, or how many years in a row the tributes from the outlying districts traditionally get slaughtered in the arena.
The "Hunger Games" metaphor made me smile when I read it ... because it does apply in various aspects of the "NY State Championship Meet".
What is called the "NY State Track & Field Championship Meet" is actually the NYSPHSAA (New York State Public High School Athletic Association) Championship Meet.
The NYSPHSAA is one of the four Athletic Associations in New York State ... The other three are (1) CHSAA (Catholic High School AA), (2) PSAL (Public Schools Athletic League) of NY City, and (3) NYSAIS (Association of Independent Schools).
The CHSAA, PSAL and NYSAIS have their own separate championship meets held prior to the NYSPHSAA Meet ... For its champion meet, the NYSPHSAA allows the CHSAA, PSAL and NYSAIS to enter representatives to compete for "Federation Championship" medals/titles ... The four NY Associations comprise the NY Federation ... There are separate awards and award ceremonies for the NYSPHSAA winners and Federation winners.
The "NY State Track & Field Championship Meet" (both indoor & outdoor) are conducted under the Championship Philosophy of the NYSPHSAA (actual document available (dated Aug 2018) on their website).
The NYSPHSAA Championship Meets are technically Intersectional Championship contests with each of the 11 sections sending equal representatives, with a few additional entries allowed depending on the sport.
The current philosophy of the NYSPHSAA is to limit participation in their championships ... Quote from the History Section of the Philosophy document ... "In August of 2009, the NYSPHSAA representatives voiced concern over the growth of participation in NYSPHSAA Championship events. A committee was established with the responsibility to review and revise if needed, both the philosophy and the philosophical guidelines for NYSPHSAA State Championships."
As many of us in NY are aware, the NYSPHSAA Track & Field and Cross Country Championships do not include (by design) some of the best teams and athletes ... It is what it is.
Except for track, the entire Federation competes at the State meet. Not just NYSPHSAA. It's only different in XC where Feds is a separate meet (and a pointless one, because of NXR and because the non NYSPHSAA schools have sucked for a few years.
So the State track meet is the State meet. No ifs, ands, or buts.
Some sections have 100s of runners competing for one spot . Other sections have 2 or 3 competing for a Spot.
http://finishright.com/download.php?type=Results&id=529
State officials are too old and lazy to care.
Tell me about it. Section 1 is stacked with talent every year and lots of talented kids don't make it to states despite faster times than other section qualifiers.
Haymitch you don’t know what you are writing about. In Indoor and Outdoor Track all parties are present: the public schools, the private schools, the catholic schools and the New York City schools. Each group has its own qualifier.
Section 1 Cursed wrote:
Tell me about it. Section 1 is stacked with talent every year and lots of talented kids don't make it to states despite faster times than other section qualifiers.
The winning girls 4x8 time in section 7 was 12:03 . I bet there won’t be any team in section 1 that runs that slow.
you got that right!
Gunny wrote:
Haymitch you don’t know what you are writing about. In Indoor and Outdoor Track all parties are present: the public schools, the private schools, the catholic schools and the New York City schools. Each group has its own qualifier.
You just said I don't know what I'm writing about...and then wrote exactly the same thing I just wrote, using different words, and leaving out the part about each one sending two.
Why are you here?
Last year NYPHSAA had a super qualifier standard where if you ran a certain time you went to states so long as you finished the sectional trial race , regardless of place . That lead to runners stopping 50 yards before the finish line to let teammates qualify . It will be interesting to see what they come up with this year.
The super qualifying standards have already been issued.