Let's all take a moment to congratulate Salwa Naser on her World Record in the womens 400 last year of 48.14 seconds.

Here's the vid.

She beat Perecs previous WR of 48.25..

Great job to everyone in the race.

Especially Mueller Uibo for getting a PR.

She has potential for 46.98 this year.

matt_london_413 wrote:

She has potential for 46.98 this year.

Especially living in Bahrain...and especially with Juan pineda as her management. You of all people should know that it’s a facade. She has improved almost 1 second each year:

2016- 50.88

2017- 49.88

2018- 49.08

2019- 48.18

Grow up. WR is 47.60. No amount of whining changes that.

Lenny Leonard wrote:

Grow up. WR is 47.60. No amount of whining changes that.

The WR is no longer 47.60.

The WR is 48.14.

Denial is a powerful emotion.

The key to defeating denial is to give in, look in the mirror, accept the fact that you're wrong, admit that you're wrong, say to yourself that you're sorry for lying to yourself for this long..

She holds the WR. Perec holds the number 2 spot with her 48.25.

matt_london_413 wrote:

Lenny Leonard wrote:

Grow up. WR is 47.60. No amount of whining changes that.

The WR is no longer 47.60.

The WR is 48.14.

Denial is a powerful emotion.

The key to defeating denial is to give in, look in the mirror, accept the fact that you're wrong, admit that you're wrong, say to yourself that you're sorry for lying to yourself for this long..

She holds the WR. Perec holds the number 2 spot with her 48.25.

You're going to have to go through the same exercise, of trying to find the nearest clean time with every present world record. The other wr's are all just as doped as 47.6. And 48.14.

matt_london_413 wrote:

She has potential for 46.98 this year.

She can do that as a split in the new 4x400 mixed-relay at the Olympics. Much like Micheal Johnson when he ran a sub 43 split.

Salwa Naser, this may be a shock to you, but congratulations on holding the WR! Matt has officially ratified it!!!!

Caruso > D. Rose! wrote:

Salwa Naser, this may be a shock to you, but congratulations on holding the WR! Matt has officially ratified it!!!!

Jarmila Kratochvílovás 47.99 does not count either.

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Her 800 meter time doesn't count either.

But this thread is for Naser.

Naser owns the 400 record. Bottomline.

Does anyone know what her training looks like this year?

IS she competing? What's her goal this year?

Aw, did you get too drunk and feel the need to come try to stir unnecessary sht up on the internet?

48.14 is also doped.

Armstronglivs wrote:

48.14 is also doped.

No it's not.

According to WIKI

""""Kratochvílová was a late developer, not breaking 53 seconds for the 400 metres until she was 27, and she was 32 when she set her world records.""""

Ok great. Jarmilla was a really good runner. She had potential to get down into the 50.85 at absolute best to 51.56 range naturally based on her really good 53 second start.. Sort of similiar to what the UKs Emily Diamond runs but slightly better.

Not bad natural times. Her 47.99 just doesn't count. That's all.

I mean we should all be congratulating Jarmilla for the good effort. She gets an A for effort at track and field and the 400 and 800. At least she put in a good effort.

She still would have been a pretty decent natural 400 and 800 runner. Her 50.85 to 51.56 range in the 400 converts to probably a 1:58.9-1:59:98 in the 800.

So still really good times there. But she's just not the best in the world.

Naser is.

And Jelimo is.

Let's get a round of applause for Naser on holding the official WR in the 400.

So who controls the WRs now? Is it the IAAF? And if they are then should the WR list be controlled by Americans?

Surely there must be new chemicals on the market to help them get to 47 flat.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIQZAq6J4ug

There is a lot to suggest she is clean, in terms of career, progression, competition schedule, race strategy, physique, running mechanics, etc., all pass my test for cleanliness. There are a few things I am curious about such as some of her coaches and training partners. Btw, I learned a long time ago that clean athletes can train with and be coached by dopers and not dope themselves.

That's a very naive view, to think that a performance that is on the cusp of a doped record that has stood for over 30 years will not also be doped.

TrackCoach wrote:

There is a lot to suggest she is clean, in terms of career, progression, competition schedule, race strategy, physique, running mechanics, etc., all pass my test for cleanliness. There are a few things I am curious about such as some of her coaches and training partners. Btw, I learned a long time ago that clean athletes can train with and be coached by dopers and not dope themselves.

I initially thought Jarmilla would be around 50.85 to 51.5 naturally. I now have to lower that.

She was probably around a 49.75 to 50.25 natural 400 runner. So those are really good times naturally.

I don't blame Jarmilla. How could you blame her? When something new comes out back then i'm sure everyone wanted to get on it.

There's been plenty of steroid users and still nobody has approached 47.99 so I guess that's what happens when you take natural talent like Jarmilla had and put them on steroids.

I'm guessing the steroids had to give her only a 2 second advantage. For her to carry that heavy of a bodyweight around the track even on steroids is incredible. SHe looks to be about 174 in the pics.

So had to update this a bit. She was definitely a 49.75 to 50.25 natural runner. Those are incredible times.. She's still a really good athlete.

TrackCoach wrote:

There is a lot to suggest she is clean, in terms of career, progression, competition schedule, race strategy, physique, running mechanics, etc., all pass my test for cleanliness. There are a few things I am curious about such as some of her coaches and training partners. Btw, I learned a long time ago that clean athletes can train with and be coached by dopers and not dope themselves.

Ok, so coupled with coaches and athletes that dope...being from Bahrain...and the following progression, you still think everything is on the up and up? You’ve certainly got more faith than I do.

2016- 50.88

2017- 49.88

2018- 49.08

2019- 48.18

3D shoulders wrote:

TrackCoach wrote:

There is a lot to suggest she is clean, in terms of career, progression, competition schedule, race strategy, physique, running mechanics, etc., all pass my test for cleanliness. There are a few things I am curious about such as some of her coaches and training partners. Btw, I learned a long time ago that clean athletes can train with and be coached by dopers and not dope themselves.

Ok, so coupled with coaches and athletes that dope...being from Bahrain...and the following progression, you still think everything is on the up and up? You’ve certainly got more faith than I do.

2016- 50.88

2017- 49.88

2018- 49.08

2019- 48.18

That progression suggests she will be running 47-low this year or next year. Clean - sure.