Gwen Jorgensen 15:47min 5km

you might be an idiot if... wrote:

bartholomew_maxwell wrote:

Funniest thing is that none of the males who are harshly criticizing her on here have even broken 16 for 5k. She's still one of the fastest women in the country.

That has nothing to do with anything in spectator sports since you don't get anything by beating me. Like I know, say Joe Flacco, sucks and played himself out of the league and it doesn't have anything to do with how I play quarterback. Flacco supporters don't get to come in and say he's better than fans criticizing him.

I think we’ve just found the 17:30 guy.

As the husband of an elite athlete I'd just like to say that you aren't even vaguely close to having a clue about what you are talking about.

It seems like she’s has gotten slower every race she has done. She ran that 15:15. Then a sub 32. But from there, she ran 3 or 4 bad races, got injured, then this. She is obviously over training or doing something majorly wrong with BTC.

I just saw this. Please don't tell me she really just ran 15:47 after all those great workouts. I didn't run those workouts and ran 14:47. What's going on here? I do feel she got in shape fast.

Speaking of watching ok TV, does she even have a qualifying time to get into the trials? She was injured when the window opened up and just missed the 5K time by almost 30 seconds.

masacote wrote:

bartholomew_maxwell wrote:

Funniest thing is that none of the males who are harshly criticizing her on here have even broken 16 for 5k. She's still one of the fastest women in the country.

Although I dislike you because of your relentless trolling, this time I agree with you. Lots of armchair critics who can’t run fast enough not even to reach the toilet on time.

I'm not faster than Gwen, but I will be soon at the trajectory she's going.

I’m rooting for everyone but I’d be nervous if I were Gwen. I honestly thought she’d maybe run slower this time around. Like “Lucas.V” she was faster cross training. She should go back to training like a triathlete and she’d maybe be faster? I remember Alan Web saying on a podcast that he was faster off of swim training with masters than living at altitude.

dontoverthinkit wrote:

No excuses. She ran like a 15:15 6 months post childbirth. This is not a good result for a sub 32 10k runner. She’s been training healthy with the Bowerman tc for a while now.

Now we know that she is having problems. No Olympics for Gwen

dontoverthinkit wrote:

No excuses. She ran like a 15:15 6 months post childbirth. This is not a good result for a sub 32 10k runner. She’s been training healthy with the Bowerman tc for a while now.

Uh oh, we got a tough guy here! No excuses!!!!

dontoverthinkit wrote:

No excuses. She ran like a 15:15 6 months post childbirth. This is not a good result for a sub 32 10k runner. She’s been training healthy with the Bowerman tc for a while now.

LetsRun -- where surgery isn't a good excuse for not running a PR your first race back. Yeesh.

It’s a 5K, there is little room for unpredictability unlike anything longer. Her workouts could not be pointing to this kind of time. Surgery was a long time ago. She has to be over trained based on going from slow long slogging to being thrown in with the cream of the crop on the track for women on a weekly basis. Everything about her journey screams of desperation and it’s sad to see for the best female triathlete four years ago. She does have the safety that BTC does not drop anybody, do they?

some nobody wrote:

As the husband of an elite athlete I'd just like to say that you aren't even vaguely close to having a clue about what you are talking about.

+1000

Oof. Remember when she said she wanted to win Olympic gold in the marathon? I’d say a top 15 at the Olympic trials would be a good result for her at this point.

KAV wrote:

some nobody wrote:

As the husband of an elite athlete I'd just like to say that you aren't even vaguely close to having a clue about what you are talking about.

+1000

Not sure what this has to do with Gwen Jorgensen. She is not an elite runner. No time that she's run suggests she would be remotely competitive at any olympic distance.

bloviating wrote:

It’s a 5K, there is little room for unpredictability unlike anything longer. Her workouts could not be pointing to this kind of time. Surgery was a long time ago. She has to be over trained based on going from slow long slogging to being thrown in with the cream of the crop on the track for women on a weekly basis. Everything about her journey screams of desperation and it’s sad to see for the best female triathlete four years ago. She does have the safety that BTC does not drop anybody, do they?

Why would they not drop anybody? If you are consistently performing underperforming, I have to think at some point they would have to. It’s a pretty elite group with a big sponsorship and there are others out there or upcoming that I’m sure at some point would like to be a part of that group. I just can’t imagine they would keep people indefinitely if they are doing bad.

They dropped Sammy Silva. Wonder how long Gwen's contract is for.

She seemed to have promise.

Does she still need to get an OT standard in 5k and 10k -- anybody know?

If she has standards then she's got time to pull it together. If she needs to chase standards then her window is closing fast.

backdoor_betty wrote:

They dropped Sammy Silva. Wonder how long Gwen's contract is for.

She seemed to have promise.

& Chris Solinski

wuzz there wrote:

Does she still need to get an OT standard in 5k and 10k -- anybody know?

If she has standards then she's got time to pull it together. If she needs to chase standards then her window is closing fast.

I believe she still needs to get standards. Jenny Simpson said in an interview that she was running the 5k this weekend just to get the 15:10 standard. Gwen definitely hasn't run either the 15:10 or 31:25 standards yet.