unshidshod wrote:
Sesamoiditis wrote:
Pole vault, like cycling, baseball, tennis, etc. has an inherent technological component. Running does not. Running races are supposed to be about who is the fastest.
So you run barefoot ?
And NAKED!!!
unshidshod wrote:
Sesamoiditis wrote:
Pole vault, like cycling, baseball, tennis, etc. has an inherent technological component. Running does not. Running races are supposed to be about who is the fastest.
So you run barefoot ?
Sesamoiditis wrote:
unshidshod wrote:
Sesamoiditis wrote:
Pole vault, like cycling, baseball, tennis, etc. has an inherent technological component. Running does not. Running races are supposed to be about who is the fastest.
So you run barefoot ?
And NAKED!!!
dfergus wrote:
There are carbon fiber javelins now, that athletes claim perform differently and better. At an NCAA championship last May, a generous athlete let the other competitors use his Jav.
Hurdles400m wrote:
Javelin is the only event where technology has made more difference in the negative direction than any other when you compare to original implements.
What other changes have their been to pole vault technology over time?
Runway
Shoes
Chalk
Grip Tape
I doubt Chalk and Grip Tape have changed much, but are modern Runways and Shoes providing a technical advantage compared to Bubka's era?
the real question... WAS HE WEARING VAPOURFLYS???
wrong but right wrote:
Any "mechanical doping" possibility there, brojos???
Bad Wigins wrote:
but are you denying that it WOULD be possible to hide a motorized device in the pole that made it snap back with more power?
Pole Vault Technology wrote:
What other changes have their been to pole vault technology over time?
Runway
Shoes
Chalk
Grip Tape
I doubt Chalk and Grip Tape have changed much, but are modern Runways and Shoes providing a technical advantage compared to Bubka's era?
Knowing this is a troll...but I can't help myself. The short answer to the original question is pole vault already had it's Vaporflyesque technological breakthrough about 55 years ago, the history of which is written in the world record progression:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/bb/World_record_progression_pole_vault_men.png
The longer answer is that virtually all modern pole vault poles follow a design and manufacturing process developed by an engineer named Herb Jenks who got his start working for Browning making fiberglass fishing rods. No one has really improved on Herb Jenks' design and no material has come along that has proven better than the S-glass fiberglass these poles have been made out of for decades now. I believe the UCS Spirit pole was named in honor of Herb Jenks. UCS Spirit is the same pole that all the pole vault records for the last 25 years (or so) have been set on, including Mondo's 6.17 jump last week.
As far as other technological advances, pole vault has certainly benefited from advances in shoe and runway technology, runway speed being the biggest factor driving vault height (all else being equal of course). I've written on here before about the advantages stiff full length spike plates have given sprinters over the last 20 years or so, there are multiple studies that have shown modern sprint spikes give anywhere from a 1-4% improvement in performance, which is enough to account for the majority of sprint performance improvements over the last 30 years or so, dating back to when spike plates only covered the first half of the shoe and sprinters didn't receive any additional spring from the shoes themselves. In terms of shoe technology Vaporflies are just catching up. Most spike plates are made out of Pebax which is a minor material breakthrough in and of itself. Pebax is known for having great energy return and being very lightweight, it's become nearly ubiquitous in the sporting good industry so IMO it's use in track shoes has flown somewhat under the radar:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polyether_block_amide
CO Coach wrote:The short answer to the original question is pole vault already had it's Vaporflyesque technological breakthrough about 55 years ago,
Mondo is a pole vaulter who depends on runway speed - I do wonder what shoes we was wearing.
I think shot put may be the only track & field event where implement/equipment technology has not directly improved performance.
polevaultpower wrote:
Bad Wigins wrote:
but are you denying that it WOULD be possible to hide a motorized device in the pole that made it snap back with more power?
I think you have a really poor understanding as to how any of this works...
Don't know much about pole vaulting do you.
Anyone can use any of the poles out there, although almost no one can use the poles Mondo uses because they do not have the same combination of runway speed, strength, experience and flexibility at take off etc.
And Bad Wigins, you just dropped your questionable reputation even further with such utter nonsense. This might be the stupidest thing I have seen on LetsRun and there has been a lot of idiocy - well, not the worst but vying for a position well in to the worst group.
Bad Wigins wrote:
I think you have a really poor understanding as to how any of this works...
Don't know much about pole vaulting do you wrote:
Don't know much about pole vaulting do you.
Anyone can use any of the poles out there, although almost no one can use the poles Mondo uses because they do not have the same combination of runway speed, strength, experience and flexibility at take off etc.
notrump wrote:
Mondo is a pole vaulter who depends on runway speed - I do wonder what shoes we was wearing.
Bump, this is turning into an absolute farse
wrong but right wrote:
Why is no one asking what materials Mondo's pole was made out of?