I'm 99.9% confident Salazar will be in Tokyo coaching . With additional emails conflicting the whistle blowers

Your blind, insane faith is admirable.

He doesn’t realize that our sport is better off without him.

Can we get a comment from Kara on this or hds she done so and I missed it?

What does she say about Dr Brown?

Allegation:

"Goucher claimed to Panorama that Salazar had tried to get her to take the prescription thyroid drug Cytomel, saying: “Alberto was always unhappy about my weight after I had Colt, like it was almost as if I didn’t have a child, I’d just like gained 30 pounds. He said: ‘You need to just take some Cytomel.’ Maybe four or five days goes by and Alberto brought me this prescription drug that I didn’t have a prescription for. It has Alberto’s writing on it clear as day.”

"Salazar’s response:

"Salazar has published a trail of email correspondence between the pair which appears to suggest that he did not want Goucher to lose weight more quickly. “I was thrilled with Kara’s weight, body composition and fitness in 2011,” he added. However, he did admit: “There was one time when I gave Kara Cytomel. It was in August 2011 in Daegu, South Korea. I did so after being expressly directed to do so by Kara’s endocrinologist, Dr Brown.”

Look for full disclosure on the Appeal . It will be a quick reversal .

Anyone know who is the runner with the bib n.39? cant find his result online

Kara Grouchier wrote:

"Salazar’s response:

“There was one time when I gave Kara Cytomel. It was in August 2011 in Daegu, South Korea. I did so after being expressly directed to do so by Kara’s endocrinologist, Dr Brown.”

Is it usual and customary for a coach to pick up and deliver prescription drugs for an athlete?

I'll sign for that wrote:

Is it usual and customary for a coach to pick up and deliver prescription drugs for an athlete?

Of course it is. Just look at how all the coaches in British Cycling were used as cross border drug mules for Team Sky's "prescriptions".

I'm not so confident that he will be able to overturn all three violations in appeal. Given the strict definitions of "facilitating", "attempted tampering", and "trafficking", and the irrelevance of many related factors, regarding intent or impact, in making the determination of the violation of the rules, I don't foresee a successful appeal. At his age, and with his reputation tarnished, I don't see him ever coming ever to coaching. This would seem a more just outcome if USADA had been able to build a case for at least one NOP athlete ever being doped by Salazar.

Goober Jr wrote:

Look for a very quick reversal after the appeal by AlSal.

Salmodil wrote:

Anyone know who is the runner with the bib n.39? cant find his result online

Brock Johnson. the dude is a beast, ran a 66:xx at Naples a few years back

I hope he gets back there and believe he will.

Goober Jr wrote:

Look for a very quick reversal after the appeal by AlSal.

Lol. That article is from 2015; points 1 - 9 weren't included in that cheat's ban; point 10 was never argued against by Nike's lawyers. Not sure what he wants: he admitted to the violation, and then received the minimum punishment for it. Pretty clear case.

Finally, the ban was also for two other anti-doping rule violations not mentioned in that 2015 article, for which he received unfortunately no additional punishment. CAS might view that differently...

In conclusion, I wouldn't be surprised if he withdraws the appeal to not get his cheating rehashed in public again. But then, he is an egomaniac. We'll see.

#39 is Dean Matthews. 2:11 PR. That photo is of 1984 Trials Marathon where he finished 5th. Went to Clemson, now lives in Jacksonville.

casual obsever wrote:

Goober Jr wrote:

Look for a very quick reversal after the appeal by AlSal.

Lol. That article is from 2015; points 1 - 9 weren't included in that cheat's ban; point 10 was never argued against by Nike's lawyers. Not sure what he wants: he admitted to the violation, and then received the minimum punishment for it. Pretty clear case.

Finally, the ban was also for two other anti-doping rule violations not mentioned in that 2015 article, for which he received unfortunately no additional punishment. CAS might view that differently...

In conclusion, I wouldn't be surprised if he withdraws the appeal to not get his cheating rehashed in public again. But then, he is an egomaniac. We'll see.

Correct. Old story.

casual obsever wrote:

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Finally, the ban was also for two other anti-doping rule violations not mentioned in that 2015 article, for which he received unfortunately no additional punishment. CAS might view that differently...

...

We'll see.

Also seems unlikely. USADA would have to appeal and it would be their burden to demonstrate multiple violations qualify to be treated separately.

The AAA Panel addresses this in paragraph 526 in the ruling. The sanction was "In accordance with Article 10.7, “Multiple Violations” ... “If the Anti-Doping Organization cannot establish this, the violations shall be considered together as one single first violation, and the sanction imposed shall be based on the violation that carries the more severe sanction."

casual obsever wrote:

Goober Jr wrote:

Look for a very quick reversal after the appeal by AlSal.

Lol. That article is from 2015; points 1 - 9 weren't included in that cheat's ban; point 10 was never argued against by Nike's lawyers. Not sure what he wants: he admitted to the violation, and then received the minimum punishment for it. Pretty clear case.

Finally, the ban was also for two other anti-doping rule violations not mentioned in that 2015 article, for which he received unfortunately no additional punishment. CAS might view that differently...

In conclusion, I wouldn't be surprised if he withdraws the appeal to not get his cheating rehashed in public again. But then, he is an egomaniac. We'll see.

Couldn't have said it better myself. This "experiment" alone should have been grounds for a lifetime ban.

Salazar already appealed before the decision was made public.

Salazar will not be openly coaching anyone ever again.

Meanwhile, Salazar is secretly coaching his favorite, Rupp. Don't tell anyone, thanks.

rekrunner wrote:

casual obsever wrote:

...

Finally, the ban was also for two other anti-doping rule violations not mentioned in that 2015 article, for which he received unfortunately no additional punishment. CAS might view that differently...

...

We'll see.

Also seems unlikely. USADA would have to appeal and it would be their burden to demonstrate multiple violations qualify to be treated separately.

The AAA Panel addresses this in paragraph 526 in the ruling. The sanction was "In accordance with Article 10.7, “Multiple Violations” ... “If the Anti-Doping Organization cannot establish this, the

violations shall be considered together as one single first violation, and the sanction imposed shall be based on the violation that carries the more severe sanction."

Seems very likely , also the next USATF president will be Al . This is what is best for the USA and what Nike wants .

Kara Grouchier wrote:

However, he did admit: “There was one time when I gave Kara Cytomel. It was in August 2011 in Daegu, South Korea. I did so after being expressly directed to do so by Kara’s endocrinologist, Dr Brown.”

This is totally damning.

Do you have any idea how a prescription works?

A doctor wants you to take drug X so your coach just gives you some from his personal stash? Um no.

Legitimate doctors don't "direct" coaches to give their athletes medications.

I am a doctor and no this is not a defense wrote:

Kara Grouchier wrote:

However, he did admit: “There was one time when I gave Kara Cytomel. It was in August 2011 in Daegu, South Korea. I did so after being expressly directed to do so by Kara’s endocrinologist, Dr Brown.”

This is totally damning.

Do you have any idea how a prescription works?

A doctor wants you to take drug X so your coach just gives you some from his personal stash? Um no.

Legitimate doctors don't "direct" coaches to give their athletes medications.

Yeah, and who brought Dr. Brown with them into the NOP program? The Gouchers. Email from Adam exists with Adam introducing himself to Dr. Brown as having been sent by Wetmore, who said he was the best in the country, and had sent other runners to him. Total revionist history that the Gouchers try to use Dr. Brown to smear NOP/Salazar, when if anything, more likely Salazar was naive than them, and that they were dirty from college.