4 x Mile Workout with Bowerman Babes

I did this same workout on the my treadmill today and then went to work.

I'm a hobby jogger. I can't figure out why they need to go jog miles at 5:20 in Colorado. Seems like they could to stay in Oregon and get a part time job.

hobbyjtreadmill wrote:

I did this same workout on the my treadmill today and then went to work.

I'm a hobby jogger. I can't figure out why they need to go jog miles at 5:20 in Colorado. Seems like they could to stay in Oregon and get a part time job.

You realize this is at high altitude? Also it looks like it was a very cold day, in the low 20s maybe even lower the way how everyone was dressed.

5:20 this time of the year (base/off-season) on altitude on a super cold day for female elite runners is right where they should be. Also the workout had more to come after the threshold. All good.

Jorgenson's form looks better at the faster paces. Houlihan and Frerichs looked like they were the strongest runners in the workout.

Good workout but running content on youtube is becoming boring and very predictable with the same style music, slow mo shots and the overall want to be an artist approach.

LateRunnerPhil wrote:

You realize this is at high altitude? Also it looks like it was a very cold day, in the low 20s maybe even lower the way how everyone was dressed.

You mean shorts and t-shirts? Yeah, looked brutally cold there on that calm sunny day.

pooptastic wrote:

LateRunnerPhil wrote:

You realize this is at high altitude? Also it looks like it was a very cold day, in the low 20s maybe even lower the way how everyone was dressed.

You mean shorts and t-shirts? Yeah, looked brutally cold there on that calm sunny day.

The sun gives a wrong perception of how cold the temperature really is. People ran a hard workout, so they were as little as they can and still some runners had full jackets and full tights.

Look at the people around - everyone has heavy jackets, mittens, probably multiple layers. Some guys, like at 3:41 even had facemasks, you wouldn't wear such a thing on a sunny day if it wasn't at least a good bit below freezing.

That being said, you actually made me check accuweather for Colorado springs on their workout days and it peaked at 46F, with a low of 26F, so maybe you are right and it was much warmer than I thought it was based on what some people were wearing (depending on the time of the workout).

I may have missed the latest research. Is there a better way to simulate oxygen debt for training advantages than living and training at high altitude?

Masks, sleeping at altitude, ...

Does it really even make sense to train most of the time with oxygen debt you do not expect to have during the race?

I figure the purpose of altitude is to increase your hematocrit, not train in debt. Or does that confer a different desirable benefit, best achieved by running with low oxygen versus doing reps while fatigued?

Naively, it seems sleeping or living with low oxygen before the race to build up your RBC while living where you can recover fastest otherwise and always training where you can run faster paces would give you the benefits you want with the least problems.

Just hold your breath when you run.

Why don’t they just live in Colorado Springs instead of Portland?

Long way to travel to jog marathon pace.

Could have been done at any altitude, and on an indoor track or parking lot. The struggle is real in woman’s distance running. I just don’t know how they do it. Brutal.

Looks like 4x1600 meters to me.

All of those miles added together almost run a decent marathon. They could do a relay.

hobbyjtreadmill wrote:

I did this same workout on the my treadmill today and then went to work.

I'm a hobby jogger. I can't figure out why they need to go jog miles at 5:20 in Colorado. Seems like they could to stay in Oregon and get a part time job.

I believe it's also at 6800-7000ftat that track. The whole point is 40 days at altitude anyway- legal stimulus to increase rbc's.

,w.t.f. wrote:

Looks like 4x1600 meters to me.

Also 3x (800, 400, 400) after 4x1600

So were they start and finishing on the back straight to stay out of the other groups way. (Which looked like Scott Simmons group)

Youtube runner wrote:

Good workout but running content on youtube is becoming boring and very predictable with the same style music, slow mo shots and the overall want to be an artist approach.

Have to agree.

Very good workout and good commentary at the end. A little more info at the beginning and as the workout progressed would have made it a lot better. What was the training context around the workout? What was the purpose or purposes of this specific workout? Where did the paces come from? What were the paces and times of the 800s and 400s?

More info and data. Less artsy fartsy.

What was the rest?

These videos are always the same. The guy that shoots them has ZERO imagination and creativity. Awful!

theyBeHouseWives wrote:

Does Gwen have abs? She's always covered

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