Chelanga Army Status?????

I know nothing (about Chelanga's situation).

However, when I was in the service thirty years ago, an officer in my unit got about two months off from our unit to train in Colorado Springs to attempt to make the U.S, Olympic Team in Team Handball. Maybe something like this is going on here.

These guys aren't really in the army. When was the last time Chelanga was deployed to combat Muslim terrorists?

It's all a sham to speed up their citizenship, so they can represent the USA.

I know nothing about the Army, so I won’t speak to that. I have nothing but respect for those who serve. What I am sick of is seeing, and what IS a sham, is the East African parades that take place in “US” and “European” distance running championships. Watch out Asia, you’re next!

What does a Venn diagram of chickenhawks and racial bigots in America look like?

JimNabors wrote:

So, 2 years ago we're told this guy is hanging up his running shoes and going off to serve his country. Yesterday he ran in Houston without a hint of Army gear, and word at the race was that he's moved to Flagstaff to train under McKirdy. What gives?

Has he managed to find an Army gig that allows him to train full-time in Flagstaff, did he wash out, just a reserve? This guy has bounced around as much as Allie Kieffer - college transfers, the post-collegiate stints in Oregon, New Hampshire, Tucson, Colorado, the Army(?), and now Flagstaff (?). Something seems off. Anyone know any more about this situation?

I'm about 99.9% positive all of the WCAP guys were in the Reserves. So my assumption is that if Chelanga is no longer in WCAP he is serving in a reserve unit. Something you can do basically anywhere and have time to pursue any other line of work while you fulfill your Reserves commitment....1 weekend a month, 2 weeks in the summer, etc.....

Alan

Barb McKeever wrote:

These guys aren't really in the army. When was the last time Chelanga was deployed to combat Muslim terrorists?

It's all a sham to speed up their citizenship, so they can represent the USA.

Chelanga was already a U.S. Citizen for three years before he joined the Army.

Also is the Asian on my Funeral Honors team less American because she used the US Army to gain citizenship?

WCAP could be filled with NCAA All-Americans....but they chose other paths. It could be filled with what some of you define as "real Americans"....but they chose other paths.

If you don't like our citizenship rules, write your congressman.

If you don't like USATF rules, write them. Maybe they will enforce a 10 year citizenship rule on behalf of the bigots and racists of Letsrun...but perhaps not.

Alan

Barabbas wrote:

I know nothing about the Army, so I won’t speak to that. I have nothing but respect for those who serve. What I am sick of is seeing, and what IS a sham, is the East African parades that take place in “US” and “European” distance running championships. Watch out Asia, you’re next!

Ummm...it started with Asia (Qatar, Bahrain, Turkey).

Guy becomes a U.S. citizens then joins the Army to service his country and anonymous people on a running forum say he's un-American.

For those so offended, the recruiters are waiting.

You’re kidding right? wrote:

Barabbas wrote:

I know nothing about the Army, so I won’t speak to that. I have nothing but respect for those who serve. What I am sick of is seeing, and what IS a sham, is the East African parades that take place in “US” and “European” distance running championships. Watch out Asia, you’re next!

Ummm...it started with Asia (Qatar, Bahrain, Turkey).

Damn - you are correct! I wasn’t thinking Middle East, I was thinking more like Japan (who would never put up with these shenanigans). Remember “Quatari” Saif Saeed Shaheen? What a joke that was. Now we’re no better.

Barabbas wrote:

You’re kidding right? wrote:

Ummm...it started with Asia (Qatar, Bahrain, Turkey).

Damn - you are correct! I wasn’t thinking Middle East, I was thinking more like Japan (who would never put up with these shenanigans). Remember “Quatari” Saif Saeed Shaheen? What a joke that was. Now we’re no better.

Isn't one of the Robertson brothers running for a Japanese team now? Why would they put up with that?

A ton of Kenyans run for japanese corporate teams.

josh1988 wrote:

Guy becomes a U.S. citizens then joins the Army to service his country and anonymous people on a running forum say he's un-American.

Another reason knock against allowing anonymous cranks. Yet the BroJohns can't see the value or figure out a policy and strategy. It's like they're graduates of a trade school.

Droddy & Stinson's Communal Bong wrote:

josh1988 wrote:

Guy becomes a U.S. citizens then joins the Army to service his country and anonymous people on a running forum say he's un-American.

Another reason knock against allowing anonymous cranks. Yet the BroJohns can't see the value or figure out a policy and strategy. It's like they're graduates of a trade school.

And exactly what's wrong with being a graduate of a trade school?

Who cares what his army status is, he's a citizen and allowed to do what he wants with his career like anyone else.

On the other hand it is weird how many groups he has jumped to and from though.

Hardloper, I agree - not concerned with his Army status in the same sense as some of the more extreme folks above. Just curious as a couple of years ago there was this dramatic announcement that he was "retiring" from running do do the OCS thing - which is a great option that more of the Kenyan-born guys should consider. Then suddenly he's back on the scene with a strong result and rumors of a move to Flagstaff - just kind of weird.

I really enjoyed watching him race in college - always aggressive, even when it cost him - and have been intrigued by his itinerant post-collegiate history. He's had some good results, but never seems to stick with any one situation long enough to get any stability and make it to that next level. In the meantime, some of the other Kenyan-born guys who don't seem to have as much talent have stuck it out in one place and really progressed.

Will be very interesting to see how his presence impacts the trials. He's a guy who's willing to be aggressive, and he's talented enough that you have to take him seriously, even if you're not entirely sure that he's fit - guys in Atlanta will dismiss any move he makes at their own peril.

Nothing at all… beyond leaving blind spots when operating in an area out of one's depth.

Thanks for the explanation. I'm sure you are quite experienced about blind spots when operating in an area out of one's depth.