Can a bouncer legally put their hands on you if you aren't being violent or threatening harm to anyone?

Idiot proofinf your life wrote:

Arguing with a bouncer is like playing 21 in Vegas -- the house always wins!

You dont understand what blackjack is. The game is designed to be 50/50 win loss. Casinos profit off the food drinks slots and the odd drunk idiot who hits on 20 because he doesnt understand blackjack is like yourself apparently.

Tommy Ferrari wrote:

Plot twist. It turns out that my father is good friends with the owner of the bar in question (that's small town life for you). My dad is going to try to set up a social get together so I can tag along and see if I can do something about meathead's employment situation.

You see, when I read your original post post I had a feeling you were kind of an entitled a-hole. Your subsequent posts mentioning to see how your employer could be connected to the gorilla's apartment and your father knowing the owner of the dive hole confirms my suspicions.

Be a man, grow a pair and move on. That's what a real man would do.(But you aren't) You go to daddy like a cry baby to complain about it.

If you had chosen to grow up big and tough like the bouncer you wouldn't be so easy to push around, would you. Instead you wanted to be state 5000 meter champ or whatever.

Maybe go to a very big spacious bar and the bouncer won't be able to catch you.

Tommy is a little boy. He probably got daddy to talk to the parents of the girl who turned him down to prom. Good thing he works for some second rate real estate company where he can stalk all the people who reject him in this small town.

I had a similar experience on Saturday night and am going to hijack this thread with no shame.

I don't drink, but I choose to do it on special occasions. You could probably count the number of times I have been drunk on one hand. Just wanted to give a little background so you know I'm not a typical douche.

I was drinking with my friends at a bar and after a few hours and a lot of alcohol we started to leave and go our separate ways for the night. I love talking to new people when I am sober, and that quality only gets amplified when I am under the influence. I must have met over a dozen new people in random scenarios on the streets and in different restaurants. Overall a really great night because I met some very interesting people with cool perspectives.

So I am roaming the streets by myself and walk into an iHop. Keep in mind it was like 3AM and I wasn't even hungry I was just surprised it was open and walked in. Instantly I noticed a short and stocky cop standing with his arms crossed at the front desk. I had no idea why he was just posted up like that as if he worked there, I wouldn't have given it a second thought if the guy was just having a meal. I even said hello to him as I was walking to the back area where the booths and tables are but his face was expressionless and he didn't say anything back. Didn't get hung up on it.

Sat down at a table with three girls who I had never met (yes I know, I am aware this is weird but I was drunk). I greeted them and spoke to all of them respectfully and 1 of them was talking to me a lot, 1 wasn't really interested, and 1 was talking over the backrest of her booth to talk to her friends sitting. Hey, a .333 batting average ain't bad and that's enough to become a Hall of Famer.

One of their guy friends asks if he could sit with us and I don't know why he was asking permission since he knows them better than me, but we are all sitting together. I am going to spare you the filler conversation and give you the sparknotes version of what happened next. The guy was acting real condescending and kept saying to me I'm handsome and that he wanted to kiss me. So naturally, I called him a f*g. He got kind of butthurt (no pun intended) and then I decided it was time to leave because one of the girls at another booth wasn't really having it. I said to him, "sorry about that... f*ggot." Then a girl chimed in and said something a little racist as I was walking out. I retorted, "It's always the big girls that talk the most sh*t." The whole table Ooooo'ed as if it was a sitcom. Realized that girl was the dude's girlfriend and he started to act tough trying to start a fight with me. I wasn't afraid of this guy because he wasn't much bigger than me at all and I'm a runner, but I was leaving on my own when the cop came to make sure I left.

Outside the iHop, I met 3 dudes who were all super cool. One of them was a big guy and they all had a sort of tough hood guy vibe. We were talking for a while about music and the conversation took a turn so I told them what happened. The big dude offers to go in with me and just pretend I showed up with backup to scare the living crap out of this guy and I said sure. Thought it'd be funny.

I just walked in by the desk area, never even got close to the tables and the cop grabs me by the arm and starts shoving me in the back to push me out of this place. He told me to get out and I was already walking out on my own but he had his hands on me super aggressively as if he had something to prove. The whole time I was just wondering, this guy isn't a bouncer, he's a cop. I didn't break any laws, so how is he allowed to touch me right now. Funny enough, the lady who actually worked the desk at the iHop came outside and talked to me very nicely. I told her I think that cop had a Napoleon complex and probably has a 4" dick. She was smiling but told me to go home and I did after saying goodbye to the 3 guys I met.

Long story short, you were out scoring for dudes and got 3 of them. ? Congratulations! Not only that, you got a bonus manhandle. Great job!

I woulda kicked dat bouncers azzz cuz i read LetsRun and i jog alot..

You’ll do fookin nuthin.

He dominated you in front of everyone.

You are not going to the police. You have no injury. You are not going to a lawyer because it will cost you money (nobody will take you on contingency). Your little fantasy of getting him fired will lead to nothing. And I’m not sure what you had in mind about his living situation. Trying something shady there will likely bring a lawsuit coming your way.

You’ll do fookin nuthin

I have a friend who was a bouncer (over 10 yrs) who was also a mma fighter, this guy/bouncer told me, he/club would go to court a lot(he likes to hurt people), always won in court if the guy/girl had been drinking, didn't matter how much. He hurt some very very bad, but the club/bouncer always won against clients who were drinking, no matter how much.

Bad Wigins wrote:

If you had chosen to grow up big and tough like the bouncer you wouldn't be so easy to push around, would you. Instead you wanted to be state 5000 meter champ or whatever.

Maybe go to a very big spacious bar and the bouncer won't be able to catch you.

Oh wow, so funny, a joke perpetuating the old, old, old meme of runners self hatred.

Tommy Ferrari wrote:

Co-Flounder wrote:

There real question here is why are you such a privileged jerk? I guess your daddy always takes care of your problems.

You think you should be able to get the guy fired because you were a drunk a-hole? If you do get him fired don't be surprised if he finds you and rearranges your face. If you're lucky he won't break your legs.

I wasn't drunk. I was manhandled for standing in the wrong place, not for being inebriated. I was on my first beer of the evening.

WRONG! You were manhandled because you thought the clearly marked restricted area didn't apply to you, and when told to leave for not following basic instructions, you back-talked like... well... like your daddy was friends with the owner. And now you're actually bragging about trying getting the guy fired because you didn't like being put in your place.

Clearly, the bouncer was right, and you're a putz.

I've seen a bouncer with a jerk like you take him down with a shot to the neck, drag him behind the buuilding and literally kick the crap out of him. The off duty uniformed cop paid to stand by the door just watched with us.

You were in the wrong. The moment he said you out you should have complied. There are rules at bars for a reason. Saying let me finish my beer first is not the negotiation. I had a mouth on me when I was younger and it lead to a few justifiable bouncer beat downs in which I was the one getting beat. Bouncers have rules to keep the patrons and themselves safe.

Man, some of you have weird ideas about how you expect to be treated by service people. I was just remembering another event, or non-event really, from a few months ago. I went to a charity dinner at a local country club. It was warm inside, so the people I was with decided to step out on the balcony. A few minutes after we went out on the balcony, an employee came out and said "sorry to bother you, but we ask that guests not use the balcony during this event." So we went inside, and no issue was made of it. I didn't even remember this happening until now because the whole thing was a non-event, as it should have been.

As far as I can see, the only difference between the country club and the bar is that lower-class people are involved in the bar situation. They (you all?) basically expect to treat each other like crap while normal people treat each other with respect unless there's a reason not to. Really my biggest point in this thread has been that I expect to be treated decently by service people, and people here are acting like this is entitled.

This is absurd. You refused to leave some place that you had no license to enter. He got rid of you. And now you want to (probably) violate the law (again) to find this guy's personal information?

You need to get over whatever insecurities are ruining your life, because this is truly pathetic and asinine. Move on.

Ok, I think you're taking this too seriously. I'm not doing anything out of insecurity. It's more like a game to be honest. You hit me, I want to hit you back. When someone surges to pass you during a race, you want to throw down a surge of your own to break them. Spirit of competition.

Tommy Ferrari wrote:

This seems to be how poor people like to treat each other, and I don't really want to be a part of it. I guess it's my fault for going to a dive bar.

lol wut. Grew up poor - went to many dive bars - never stood in closed sections - never had a bouncer lay a hand on me.

Maybe you're just not a great human?

Tommy Ferrari wrote:

Ok, I think you're taking this too seriously. I'm not doing anything out of insecurity. It's more like a game to be honest. You hit me, I want to hit you back. When someone surges to pass you during a race, you want to throw down a surge of your own to break them. Spirit of competition.

If you want to talk about spirit of competition, you hit first by entering an area of private property without a license, and he hit back by removing you. Game over. No one cares if you surge past him after the finish line, which is what you're trying to do.

I hope this is real, I hope you take the action you're contemplating, and I hope this bouncer sues you into oblivion, you pathetic, cowardly, worthless excuse of a man.

Or maybe you should just go back to the bar and tell the bouncer you have a problem with him. That could be fun, too.

Tommy Ferrari wrote:

Can a bouncer legally put their hands on you if you aren't being violent or threatening harm to anyone?

You just need to watch the movie "Road House" and this will clear up for you exactly what a bouncer can and can't do and what a bouncer should and shouldn't do.