Athletics Kenya Prez: Large Amount of Dopers Caught Shows System Works, Says There Will be No Second Chances

Bravo!

This is a good thing, but unfortunately, Western media, including TPTB here at Letsrun have chosen to take the angle that this is grounds for a blanket ban on Kenya. While that is unlikely to happen, the doping violations will slow down to a trickle, at some point. That's when we'll know the dopers have been weeded out. Kenya is probably the only country that can take this kind of hit and still show up and continue to dominate.

AK and ADAK deserve to be congratulated and encouraged for the excellent work they're doing, instead of being threatened with further consequences for actually doing their jobs and achieving results. Kenya is the only country that seems committed this area as we've seen recent evidence the UK may be protecting its sacred cows.

So, Bravo Gen Tuwei and AK.

I want to add something about the challenges with whereabouts. People don't realise that many, many, Kenyan athletes didn't have a formal education and are even barely literate. ADAMS might be a challenge for these. However, Wilson Kipsang isn't one of them so his version of events will be interesting to hear.

The sad truth is, that although that Kenya is (at gunpoint) doing a lot to improve their standards and catch cheats (compared to close to zero in places like Ethiopia), what these busts show is that doping is likely virtually universal among Kenyan athletes.

It's not like most other countries, where you do have a few bad apples and others who choose to compete clean (if only through fear of being caught and banned). It appears that the culture in Kenya has been that EVERYBODY has to cheat (similar to professional cycling in Europe for most of it's history, and certain other sports).

El K's schoolboy argument that Kenya catching cheats proves that the likes of the UK are 'letting their cheats go', would logically entail that anti-doping testers even in single countries such as the USA and the UK are competent when it comes to catching sprinters, and incompetent (or corrupt) when catching distance stars.

Why would UKADA deliberately let Mo get away with cheating, but choose to destroy Linford Christie (both were icons of their respective black British communities)?

And yes, I think Linford and Mo are both cheats, the reason why UKADA didn't get Mo is because Mo spends most of his time in East Africa or (previously) in the USA under shady Sal.

If doping cases can be distributed unevenly even among events in the same country (sprinting busts in the USA/GB as compared to distance busts), why can't they be distributed unevenly among different countries, with wildly different cultures, laws, ease of access to peds, financial incentives etc etc?

Coevett wrote:

Why would UKADA deliberately let Mo get away with cheating, but choose to destroy Linford Christie (both were icons of their respective black British communities)?

You might want to read up on Christie:

a) he got away with a positive test in 1988;

b) he got away in the 1994 scandal;

c) he was caught in an in-competition test in Germany in 1999, not by the Brits;

d) then UKA found him not guilty (!), but the IAAF overruled them;

e) then BBC hired him.

Looks like the Brits protected him too, for over a decade. He was the British Baumann.

Coevett wrote:

If doping cases can be distributed unevenly even among events in the same country (sprinting busts in the USA/GB as compared to distance busts), why can't they be distributed unevenly among different countries, with wildly different cultures, laws, ease of access to peds, financial incentives etc etc?

No worries, we all know that doping cases are "distributed unevenly among different countries", and that Kenya is among the worst. El K is just trolling around here.

casual obsever wrote:

Coevett wrote:

If doping cases can be distributed unevenly even among events in the same country (sprinting busts in the USA/GB as compared to distance busts), why can't they be distributed unevenly among different countries, with wildly different cultures, laws, ease of access to peds, financial incentives etc etc?

No worries, we all know that doping cases are "distributed unevenly among different countries", and that Kenya is among the worst. El K is just trolling around here.

No. The AIU has committed a large part of its resources to cleansing Kenyan athletics hence the appearance of being worse than elsewhere. Much slower countries like the U.K. would buckle under similar scrutiny.

Better than the UK and their joke UKADA or whatever the name of that travesty is.

trolero wrote:

Better than the UK and their joke UKADA or whatever the name of that travesty is.

Protecting Mo and who knows who else.

The narrative on this site and Western media in general is that Kenyan authorities aren’t cooperating and that the busts are in spite of them. Eventually the busts will dry up and we’ll know the problem has been solved, and it will all be thanks to AK and ADAK.

I like that he talks about the athlete that ran away because that’s the big story.

El Keniano wrote:

I want to add something about the challenges with whereabouts. People don't realise that many, many, Kenyan athletes didn't have a formal education and are even barely literate.

Racist.

how embarrassment wrote:

El Keniano wrote:

I want to add something about the challenges with whereabouts. People don't realise that many, many, Kenyan athletes didn't have a formal education and are even barely literate.

Racist.

What? It’s no secret. There have been Kenyan runners who grew up too poor to afford school.

According to a BBC poll (35%) of amateur sports people in the UK say they personally know someone who has doped, and 8% said they had taken steroids.

50% believe performance enhancing substance use is "widespread" among those who play sport competitively.

But Coevett would like you to believe that the Brits are innocent. :) :)

Doping has and will always be widespread in sport.

Kenya is full of doppers.

Just within the past 12 months a current and former WR holder were popped.