I absolutely love the foam on my Altra Escalante 1's, I am just not in love with the zero drop any more.
What other shoes have foam that feels similar to the Escalantes? I have tried the googles but Altra uses a proprietary "Ego" foam which isn't found in other shoes.
It's TPU foam.
Adidas Boost, Saucony PwrRun+ and some others use TPU. Saucony is releasing a new line (February, I think?) where several shoes will have more of their TPU.
https://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=8460083
https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=saucony+freedom+3&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
Pebax supposedly is lighter and springier. It does not last and does not respond to temperature well, and currently only exists in relatively expensive shoes.
The Fuel Cell NB shoes have great ratings for springiness even though they do not use either foam.
I have a pair of Ultra Boost 19's and they do not really remind me of the Escalante's much.
bfio wrote:
I have a pair of Ultra Boost 19's and they do not really remind me of the Escalante's much.
which is why looking for a shoe with the same type of foam is short-sighted
the escalante 1 and 1.5 used a TPU foam, like Boost or Everrun, but adidas doesn't make a shoe that FEELS like an escalante.
OP...firstly I'd like to know the exact reasons why you didn't like the Escalante. might not have been the zero drop that was the issue...or maybe you didn't give it enough time. the escalante is by no means a perfect shoe but for many people the drop wouldn't be the biggest issue.
the saucony freedom is a comparable shoe, though a bit less spongy and a bit more performance-oriented.
going up to the altra torin might be enough of a change that the zero drop becomes less of an issue as you get more heel cushioning.
you could also try a shoe like the reebok floatride run fast which is higher drop but soft like the escalantes.
there are many others but I wouldn't make too many recommendations until you give more info
I have had some issues lately with metatarsalgia and have found a softer, spongier keeps my foot happy.
I have tried to rotate back to the Escalantes but don't like them like I used to.
I tried zero drop for a while, had the Torin 2.0, Escalantes and One's but ultimately decided 4-10mm drop feels better to me.
I have a pair of React Flyknit 2's and Pegasus 35's on the way that I got a for a steal, hoping those foams feel good underfoot.
reed wrote:
bfio wrote:
I have a pair of Ultra Boost 19's and they do not really remind me of the Escalante's much.
which is why looking for a shoe with the same type of foam is short-sighted
the escalante 1 and 1.5 used a TPU foam, like Boost or Everrun, but adidas doesn't make a shoe that FEELS like an escalante.
OP...firstly I'd like to know the exact reasons why you didn't like the Escalante. might not have been the zero drop that was the issue...or maybe you didn't give it enough time. the escalante is by no means a perfect shoe but for many people the drop wouldn't be the biggest issue.
the saucony freedom is a comparable shoe, though a bit less spongy and a bit more performance-oriented.
going up to the altra torin might be enough of a change that the zero drop becomes less of an issue as you get more heel cushioning.
you could also try a shoe like the reebok floatride run fast which is higher drop but soft like the escalantes.
there are many others but I wouldn't make too many recommendations until you give more info
Try the Adidas Adizero line. The Boston may fill your needs. It rides nothing like an Escalante but it has TPU foam and it’s quite a bit firmer than an ultra boost.
The Saucony Freedom 2 (soon to be freedom 3) may also work. TPU foam with a ride that is more Escalante like than the Boston.
the Boston is not "spongy" in any way
the hoka hupana might be a good option
Would you recommend the Freedom over the Triumph?
The Triumph is going to have a nice, plush ride to it. Again, maybe not quite what Altra had, but it's a solid shoe.
For reasons similar to yours, I liked Altras for the cushioning and forefoot space, but struggled with the 0 drop. I've put a lot of time in New Balances 1080s lately. Again, they don't feel quite like Altras, but they have plenty of cushioning, and in many ways I like them better. They're more responsive and longer lasting.
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