USA XC champs are this weekend - Do you recognize any of these entrants? One will be a natl. champ.

ThreadKiller wrote:

Ortonville Giants wrote:

Nice to see all of my tax dollars paying for these Kenyans to run pro.

yep all of YOUR tax dollars. I can't believe a country of immigrants is allowing this.

Additionally, I highly doubt it is DOLLARS going towards WCAP. Assuming they have a budget of $1,000,000, that means approximately 1 CENT of every $18,000 of income tax goes towards supporting WCAP. And compared to where most of my tax dollars go, I'd actually rather more of my money went towards programs like this.

The Angel of Death wrote:

Nigel_Bikes wrote:

I think that it's safe to say that XC isn't a big priority for post collegiate runners to participate in.

Especially this year with no World and the Marathon Olympic trials about a month away

Back in the day everyone would show up, marathon trials or not.

Rachel (Sorna) Schilkowsky - Cornell grad, better known for steeplechase success, I believe on rebound from injuries

Sean Barrett - Marine (two bronze stars; deployed 4 times), Harvard grad, represented US Marines at World Military XC championships a few times

Why is Ian La Mere not running this? I haven’t seen his name much recently but half expected him on the start list. He seems to be with Hanson’s.

fentrekker wrote:

The Angel of Death wrote:

Especially this year with no World and the Marathon Olympic trials about a month away

Obligatory Ok Boomer

Back in the day everyone would show up, marathon trials or not.

old man runner wrote:

I'm surprised to see Connor McMillan run this because didn't he get the Olympic Marathon standard at the NYC marathon? I assumed he would run the U.S. Marathon Trials. Is he running both?

4000260 wrote:

Recognize Dillon Maggard, Connor McMillan, and James Withers cause I live in Utah. Dillon is a beast and could definitely make some noise.

I’m assuming he is running the Trials. Interesting decision though.

did wrote:

... 52 women and 76 men confirmed...

Two days later (1/17/20 12:15pm eastern) and still the same 52 women and 76 men confirmed.

Registration deadline was 1/14/20 at 11:59pm so it appears we have the full fields.

8:45 AM Community 4 km

9:30 AM Masters Women 6 km

10:30 AM Masters Men 8 km

11:30 AM Junior Women 6 km

12:15 PM Junior Men 8 km

1:00 PM Senior Women 10 km

1:50 PM Senior Men 10 km

Prize Money

Open

1st $2000

2nd $1000

3rd $800

4th $700

5th $600

6th $500

7th $400

8th $300

9th $200

10th $100

Age Graded

1st $1000

2nd $500

3rd $250

4th $150

5th $100

All 5-Year Age Group Champions

1st $150

old man runner wrote:

I'm surprised to see Connor McMillan run this because didn't he get the Olympic Marathon standard at the NYC marathon? I assumed he would run the U.S. Marathon Trials. Is he running both?

4000260 wrote:

Recognize Dillon Maggard, Connor McMillan, and James Withers cause I live in Utah. Dillon is a beast and could definitely make some noise.

It's a tune up for the trials.

Rained today, shall be mudfest. Really I don't understand why they have a club nat's and another national championship 1 month later. Should be 1 event... If anything the masters champs should be in this one too

The course is still pretty solid. There’s a mud patch here and there but otherwise it should be fine for tomorrow.

San Diego Hobby Jogger wrote:

Rained today, shall be mudfest. Really I don't understand why they have a club nat's and another national championship 1 month later. Should be 1 event... If anything the masters champs should be in this one too

There is a masters champs race for us old folks. Starts at 10:30. Masters beer drinking probably will start before 11:00.

A guy named MJ is Kenyan?

runthecountry wrote:

ThreadKiller wrote:

yep all of YOUR tax dollars. I can't believe a country of immigrants is allowing this.

Additionally, I highly doubt it is DOLLARS going towards WCAP. Assuming they have a budget of $1,000,000, that means approximately 1 CENT of every $18,000 of income tax goes towards supporting WCAP. And compared to where most of my tax dollars go, I'd actually rather more of my money went towards programs like this.

Also pretty sure we just spent or budgeted for like a trillion dollars on the military

WHERE ARE THE TINMEN????

fentrekker wrote:

Back in the day everyone would show up, marathon trials or not.

Was thinking back to the one time I did USATF XC nats, in Vancouver WA. That was 2005 and it was a pretty solid field. I think maybe having the 4K back then also helped. Brought a few different guys who normally wouldn't just do a 12K. Note that the 4K field is probably more impressive than the 12K!

12K results:

22 1 Dathan Ritzenhein, 22, Boulder, CO 36:59.9 Nike

21 2 Jorge Torres, 24, Boulder, CO 37:14.2 Reebok

37 3 Tim Broe, 27, Ann Arbor, MI 37:27.0 adidas

594 4 Matt Withrow, 19, Madison, WI 37:32.4

54 5 Jason Lehmkuhle, 27, St. Paul, MN 37:33.5 Asics

319 6 1 Ian Dobson, 23, Stanford, CA 37:34.4 The Farm Team, Inc.

312 7 2 Paul Kezes, 25, Eugene, OR 37:40.8 Team XO

78 8 Matthew Gabrielson, 26, Apple Valley, MN 37:54.1 Reebok

598 9 Joe Driscoll, 25, Lenoir, NC 38:11.1 Zap Fitness

460 10 Peter Gilmore, 27, Menlo Park, CA 38:15.9

314 11 3 Max King, 24, Bend, OR 38:16.2 Team XO

64 12 Dave Davis, 26, Portland, OR 38:18.3 Nike

334 13 4 Steve Sundell, 22, Moutain View, CA 38:20.8 The Farm Team, Inc.

38 14 5 Josh Eberly, 24, Rochester, MI 38:30.3 Hansons-Brooks D P A

384 15 Fernando Cabada, 22, Bristol, VA 38:38.1 Virginia Intermont Co

614 16 Justin Young, 25, Boulder, CO 38:45.6 Nike

580 17 Austin Vigil, 23, Ft Collins, CO 38:47.4

423 18 Fasil Bizuneh, 24, Marina, CA 38:48.0 Big Sur DistanceProj

36 19 Ian Connor, 25, Lenoir, NC 38:58.2 Nike

68 20 Chad Johnson, 28, Minneapolis, MN 39:00.0 Nike

4K Results:

51 1 Tim Broe, 27, Ann Arbor, MI 11:37.8 adidas

66 2 Adam Goucher, 29, Portland, OR 11:39.1 Nike

330 3 1 Donald Sage, 23, Stanford, CA 11:40.7 The Farm Team, Inc.

507 4 Joshua McDougal, 19, Peru, NY 11:41.8 Liberty University

84 5 Jorge Torres, 24, Boulder, CO 11:44.1 Reebok

32 6 Alan Webb, 22, Fairfax, VA 11:48.3 Nike

34 7 Jonathon Riley, 26, Palo Alto, CA 11:53.0 Nike

65 8 Dave Davis, 26, Portland, OR 11:57.2 Nike

79 9 Matthew Gabrielson, 26, Apple Valley, MN 11:59.8 Reebok

28 10 Luke Watson, 24, Minneapolis, MN 12:01.3 adidas

311 11 2 Paul Kezes, 25, Eugene, OR 12:02.4 Team XO

313 12 3 Max King, 24, Bend, OR 12:04.7 Team XO

30 13 Charlie Gruber, 26, Lawrence, KS 12:06.8 Nike

60 14 Matthew Downin, 28, Westwood, NJ 12:08.6 New Balance

27 15 Grant Robison, 26, Whitemore Lake, MI 12:10.6 Reebok

356 16 Sandu Rebencivc, 35, Lafayette, CO 12:11.9 U.S. Army

61 17 Scott McGowan, 24, Missoula, MT 12:13.0 New Balance

321 18 4 Christopher Estwanik, 24, Menlo Park, CA 12:14.0 The Farm Team, Inc.

63 19 Ian Connor, 25, Lenoir, NC 12:15.0 Nike

587 20 Lyle Weese, 25, Bozeman, MT 12:15.7

Looking wrote:

WHERE ARE THE TINMEN????

Already peaked.

ThreadKiller wrote:

runthecountry wrote:

Additionally, I highly doubt it is DOLLARS going towards WCAP. Assuming they have a budget of $1,000,000, that means approximately 1 CENT of every $18,000 of income tax goes towards supporting WCAP. And compared to where most of my tax dollars go, I'd actually rather more of my money went towards programs like this.

Also pretty sure we just spent or budgeted for like a trillion dollars on the military

It's been pointed out so many time that WCAP is funded by non-appropriated funds (meaning, funds apart from funds approved by Congress)

In other words, WCAP is funded by sponsor dollars, not tax payer money.

But don;t let the facts get in the way of your blatant racism...

Nice double back by Jorge and Max!

... and no mention of Tim Broe?