Cars with 300+ HP and 30+ MPG?

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nikola tesla wrote:

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Looking for ICE vehicles. Hence the MPG specification.

mustang ecoboost. 30 mpg highway, 300+hp

obviously, if you regularly drive in the powerband, you will never approach 30mpg in any car

Corvette

I can think of one custom car offhand, the K-Sight by LHT Performance, which is on youtube and was shown at SEMA in 2015, I think. It's a modified first generation Honda Insight, which was a tiny two seat hybrid with an aluminum body. The hybrid powertrain was swapped with a turbo Honda K20 engine and tuned to 438 whp, which is about 500 crank hp. All wheel drive was added. It's gotten as high as 48 mpg, and is typically 45 mpg on the highway according to the LHT guy.

I think a lot of small cars like Civics and the like with a K-series swap should be able to have 300 hp and over 30 mpg at the same time in normal driving if you stay off the throttle.

https://youtu.be/vOBL62GTR_I

300 HP and 30 MPG together doesn't make much sense.

Get a Mazda MX-5 with half the horsepower, twice the fun and a 30+ MPG.

I agree, who actually uses that kind of horsepower on the road? I have an ICE car, close to 200 HP, accelerates just find when needed (rare) and fuel economy is really good, city/suburbs about 28, highway 40-45.

Electric cars are rated in MPGe, so yes every Tesla would do that.

The Toyota Rav 4 PHEV comes out shortly. 302hp and probably about 80mpg depending on how it’s calculated. The regular hybrid gets 40mpg, the PHEV will probably be slightly more efficient in hybrid mode and still 302hp.

The BMW m550d is rated at 394hp and 39mpg. That’s a quad turbo Diesel engine.

bgfffhhgdd wrote:

Electric cars are rated in MPGe, so yes every Tesla would do that.

MPGe is an equivalency, and I’ve already specified that I’m searching for cars with internal combustion engines.

Also, I’m searching for cars that come stock with these specifications, as tuner cars face far too many risks when parts are tested beyond their limits. I like the Mustang Ecoboost recommendation. I read a report recently that showed a 63 MPG figure during testing in Australia. They certainly fair well, economically speaking, within the lower rev ranges, and they seem to offer more than ample power and torque between 3500 and 5500 RPM, where you normally need it. I’ve read consumer reports showing anywhere from 30+ MPG (combined) to 40+ MPG (highway), so it’s definitely a compelling option.

Toyota Sienna Hybrid will have 330 hp and get 35 mpg.

zzzz wrote:

Toyota Sienna Hybrid will have 330 hp and get 35 mpg.

The Sienna isn’t a car. It’s a van.

Mencken1976 wrote:

I agree, who actually uses that kind of horsepower on the road? I have an ICE car, close to 200 HP, accelerates just find when needed (rare) and fuel economy is really good, city/suburbs about 28, highway 40-45.

What car is that?

mpg knower wrote:

mustang ecoboost. 30 mpg highway, 300+hp

I can only think of mustang ecoboost as well. You can sometimes find the base model for around $18.5k brand new which I think is great if you intend to own it for at least 5 years.

I have been seriously considering getting this, and i have done extensive research. Downside to the mustang is that it still is a heavy car so it’s not so nimble as some other cars with less horsepower.

But still, $18.5k brand new and can go 0-60 in about 5 seconds and I think mustangs look nice so I think it’s a great car.

But after extensive research, I myself is interested in Scion FR-S. You can get good condition used ones for around $11k-$13k which I think is a great deal as well as I like that the car feels very analog and a true sports car. Power is low but positive is that maintenance cost will be low and good mpg.

Where are you finding any Mustang brand new for under $20k? As far as I can tell, base MSRP starts around $27k, where premium options quickly bring the price up to around $35k. For the convertible, you’re looking at $40k.

Higher end diesels would get close:

BMW 535d would arguably be equivalent at 255hp and 413lb/ft for 5.5s 0-60 and 30mpg combined.

A6 TDI's 240-hp and 428 lb-ft for 5.4s 0-60 and 29mpg combined.

Newer 540d xDrive with 261 horsepower and 457 lb/ft for 5.4s and 30 combined.

Yea, I am finding new ones for $18.5k as lowest for mustang ecoboost. Ford and all other domestic models always have so much rebate that you can always get cars for several thousands below msrp. That’s one of the reasons it looks like they have huge depreciation from their original msrp. Most domestics do have terrible depreciation, but with these new cars selling way less than msrp, depreciation looks even worse.

So then the RAV4 PHEV is still in contention. A Porsche 918 Spyder gets about 40mpg, 700hp, $2,000,000.

The Civic Type R is 306hp, 28mpg highway.

The RAV4 PHEV isn't a car. It's a SUV.