London elite - Bekele is not there

correction: in his 30's, not 20's

John Wesley Harding wrote:

mpl wrote:

I’d care.

+1, it would be even better than a solo 2:01:37 in Berlin.

The ultimate would be if Bekele dethroned Kipchoge at the Olympics—that would be the ultimate G.O.A.T.-clinching comeback 18 years after he first doubled at World XC.

I’m just as interested that Kamworor is not listed here either. I really felt like the Olympic marathon should and would be his target, but perhaps nobody in he and Kipchoge’s camp wanted them to clash yet—or they believed that racing separately would increase their chances of both making the team.

Tokyo and Boston should be releasing their fields soon. If my dreams become reality, Tokyo will be billed as a rematch of the top two in Berlin, Bekele vs. defending champ Legese, while Boston will have Cherono, Desisa and Kamworor.

Ahhh, dreams! They will all want a spring marathon before representing either Kenya or Ethiopia in July.

No doubt he is incredible, I never expected him to run that marathon time. Still waiting for someone to best his world records as well haha.

Abeneziel wrote:

Gorland Fairbanks wrote:

Since when is Bekele an elite? He’s massively overrated in all facets of his ability.

Since he has 3 olympic gold, 5 world champion titles, 11 world cross country gold and several major marathon victories?

In addition of being the world record holder of the 10 000m, 5 000m (both outdoor and indoor) and having the second ever fastest marathon.

Maybe that makes him elite, maybe.

well... Gorland Fairbanks gets a +10 for bating this idjit into a heartfelt response.

Tomorrow they announce the remainder of elites outside the 10 or 11 named mon and tues. still could be some other top 20

Wildhorse wrote:

Bekele's focus should be Berlin and a WR. Nobody cares if he beats Kipchoge in London in 2:02'.

Can't run the Olympics and Berlin. I think Bekele badly wants to get back on the Olympic stage. He has to impress the team selectors.

mpl wrote:

Wildhorse wrote:

Bekele's focus should be Berlin and a WR. Nobody cares if he beats Kipchoge in London in 2:02'.

I’d care.

As would I.

Abeneziel wrote:

I'm not sure why everyone is so hyped for a Bekele/Kipchoge Duel. Does no one know that Bekele is already 0-3 in the marathon against Kipchoge. Bekele has gotten 2 marathons right his entire career. Kipchoge has been right nearly every time. Bekele may have the greatest range ever, but still won't be the greatest marathoner.

Because Bekele , when he shows up good, is the best.

You can call him inconsistant, injury prone in his 20's, it is true. But when he is on, he is better than all the others and better than any Kipchoge's potential challenger.

Add that to the fact that Bekele used to manhandle Kipchoge on track and XC and you understand why people think Bekele can take down Kipchoge if he shows up in the shape he had in Berlin.

EK has bested Bekele every marathon race that they've faced each other.

Abeneziel wrote:

I'm not sure why everyone is so hyped for a Bekele/Kipchoge Duel. Does no one know that Bekele is already 0-3 in the marathon against Kipchoge. Bekele has gotten 2 marathons right his entire career. Kipchoge has been right nearly every time. Bekele may have the greatest range ever, but still won't be the greatest marathoner.

Because Bekele , when he shows up good, is the best.

You can call him inconsistant, injury prone in his 20's, it is true. But when he is on, he is better than all the others and better than any Kipchoge's potential challenger.

Add that to the fact that Bekele used to manhandle Kipchoge on track and XC and you understand why people think Bekele can take down Kipchoge if he shows up in the shape he had in Berlin.

Manhandled?

duel in the rising sun wrote:

Abeneziel wrote:

Because Bekele , when he shows up good, is the best.

You can call him inconsistant, injury prone in his 20's, it is true. But when he is on, he is better than all the others and better than any Kipchoge's potential challenger.

Add that to the fact that Bekele used to manhandle Kipchoge on track and XC and you understand why people think Bekele can take down Kipchoge if he shows up in the shape he had in Berlin.

Manhandled?

https://youtu.be/WMZdOdriRdk

Yeah, pretty much. After that race, there wasn’t even a close race between them until 2012 when Bekele was injured.

Remember 2008 when Bekele lead for almost 9 laps of the 5,000m and destroyed Kipchoge on the last lap

Bekele will not have another successful race for several years. It's apparent that he's a troll whose modus operandi is to occasionally run unbelievable races and then disappoint them. When no one is interested again, he will again reascend to greatness for a race.

Run007xx wrote:

well... Gorland Fairbanks gets a +10 for bating this idjit into a heartfelt response.

It's more like I seized the opportunity to place Bekele great palmares into the thread.

duel in the rising sun wrote:

Abeneziel wrote:

Because Bekele , when he shows up good, is the best.

You can call him inconsistant, injury prone in his 20's, it is true. But when he is on, he is better than all the others and better than any Kipchoge's potential challenger.

Add that to the fact that Bekele used to manhandle Kipchoge on track and XC and you understand why people think Bekele can take down Kipchoge if he shows up in the shape he had in Berlin.

Manhandled?

https://youtu.be/WMZdOdriRdk

According to my datas, Bekele is 13-3 against Kipchoge on track and XC, pretty much a one sided affair.

And like Tron said:

That video sum up better their respective levels

I understand that Kipchoge has betean Bekele in several marathons. But Bekele either did not finish or posted a disappointing time. It's not the same situation.

If Kipchoge had beaten a good Bekele who finished second each time, then you would have a point. Beating a Bekele who finish in 2:07 at the 8th position is not the same than facing the Bekele winning Berlin or Paris.

It was not Kipchoge’s fault that Bekele DNF so often I’m the marathon. Bekele’s a great 5000m and 10000m runner, but he did not learn how to run a marathon like Kipchoge.

And yet he's 0-4 against Kipchoge in marathons.

Aussiestatman wrote:

Tomorrow they announce the remainder of elites outside the 10 or 11 named mon and tues. still could be some other top 20

Some i’d like to see named: the pacer who won Abu Dhabi (Reuben Kiprop Kipyego), Shifera Tamru, Betesfa Getahun, and Fentahun Hunegnaw.

Aussiestatman wrote:

Aussiestatman wrote:

Tomorrow they announce the remainder of elites outside the 10 or 11 named mon and tues. still could be some other top 20

Some i’d like to see named: the pacer who won Abu Dhabi (Reuben Kiprop Kipyego), Shifera Tamru, Betesfa Getahun, and Fentahun Hunegnaw.

And among the women: Azmera Gebru, Birke Debela, Kuftu Tahir, and Zeineba Yimer.

duel in the rising sun wrote:

Abeneziel wrote:

Because Bekele , when he shows up good, is the best.

You can call him inconsistant, injury prone in his 20's, it is true. But when he is on, he is better than all the others and better than any Kipchoge's potential challenger.

Add that to the fact that Bekele used to manhandle Kipchoge on track and XC and you understand why people think Bekele can take down Kipchoge if he shows up in the shape he had in Berlin.

Manhandled?

https://youtu.be/WMZdOdriRdk

This is the greatest distance race in championships history, in my opinion. Besting London 2012 800m and Sydney 2000 10,000m. That Letsrun list is for people who know nothing about athletics.

800m is a distance race? More like a sprint. 10000m is only middle distance, the marathon is a distance race!