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Just found out that my team is only allowing about 3 distance guys on roster for track season due to a large increase of good sprinters and a loss of some female distance runners. The other 10 of us will essentially be redshirted which means that we can't travel with team. I am probably the best guy to get bumped being that I am on our record board but several other guys are 14:10-14:20 and 8:10-8:20 type guys. We are an average distance team which makes it really surprising.
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You are correct, but a little late to the party. In the early 90s, men's D1 sports across the country were decimated by T9. No team immune. At my school, the morons eliminated men's track, CC and a top 25 baseball team. Lost my $ because of it, as did all my teammates, some of whom were conference champions and NCAA qualifiers in their events. Some transferred, some hung them up. Awful experience.
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Title 9 is supposed to kill men’s sports.
That’s the goal.
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We can possibly get 2 sub 14 unattached guys but probably not fast enough to get any real attention.
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When males complain about the number of athletic grants men college T&F have available, your concern should not be anger toward your female cousins or sister obtaining an athletic grant.
Why are not you upset that college Am. football coaches are less likely today to share athletes with T&F team as college football teams shared 35 plus years ago?
Why are not you disappointed that D-1 college football teams are allowed to have 105 fellas on roster with 85 athletic grants. A football team does not need more than 60 men on football team and does not need more 30 athletic grants.
Football teams, in aggregate lie when they state football is profitable. For some top institutions, college football team is profitable. Not all of them.
Women graduate at a higher percentage than males from college. Women are less likely to bring shame and embarrassment to a college due to arrests and anti-social behavior bellow criminal arrests as do some males. -
If the football team shared some guys, we would be allowed even fewer roster spots for distance guys because that would add sprinters and throwers. It had nothing to do with grants as you say. It is about roster spots.
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What are you going to do about it. Make an anonymous complaint and move on with your life?
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Senior year so too late to transfer. Continuing to train with team and will run home meets and probably travel to 1-2 away meets on own dime.
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That’s not doing anything to combat Title IX
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Scholarships for revenue sports (football and men's basketball) should be funded externally in the big schools and should not count against the total.
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This is why some women's sports team are not that competitive. They have only been added to balance the numbers caused by football. A lot of schools will have a women's soccer team but no men's team because the numbers add up quicker. In addition the women get more scholarships than a men's team would. Again, this is to make up for the difference caused by football. A male athlete has to be a much better player to make a college soccer team than a female soccer player due to more opportunities to play soccer for women as opposed to men.
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I agree but the NCAA would never relinquish football and men's basketball at the D1 level. Too much money involved to let that go.
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Why should our tax dollars go towards supporting a 14:10 guy getting a kinesiology degree from directional state college?
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Waaahhhhhhhhhhh!
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You are so pathetic wrote:
When males complain about the number of athletic grants men college T&F have available, your concern should not be anger toward your female cousins or sister obtaining an athletic grant.
The problem is neither women's sports nor football, the problem is the complete farce that is Title IX. -
That's a valid argument. In fact, why should there even be any sports in universities in the first place. Perhaps you could follow the traditional lead of universities in the UK where there are no sports directly receiving money from the university. Instead there are outside clubs for that and have no financial ties to the university. This is changing a little bit as of 2013 but is nowhere close to what is done in the USA.
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Abolish Title IX wrote:
You are so pathetic wrote:
When males complain about the number of athletic grants men college T&F have available, your concern should not be anger toward your female cousins or sister obtaining an athletic grant.
The problem is neither women's sports nor football, the problem is the complete farce that is Title IX.
Title IX is similar to many other laws and directives. It solved one problem but created others. Without T 9 women's sports would not be where it is today. Unfortunately, the fall out for the expansion and success of women's sports has been many non-revenue generating men's sports. -
Not too many tax dollars supporting a non scholarship guy. And it is P5 school that has more money than it knows what to do with from the revenue sports. I doubt there are very many directional schools that have guus breaking 14 who can't get a roster spot.
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All of the crazy talk on this site of 14 minute guys getting scholarships when 14:10 guys can't even make a roster.
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What about middle distance guys op?
Can you run the 15, 8, and steeple? I doubt a school would want to cover the 8, 15, steeple, 5, and 10 with just 3 guys. 10 distance guys is probably too many to send to every meet, but most schools will keep them on the roster and let the compete at meets in van ride distance. What are your options, can you transfer? If you want to stay put and run xc, can you race a half marathon or track unattached?
