No comments on Murphy's return to Akron?

1500?

I think it's good he's gone back to his college coach. That's when he was the best.

Opinionated guy wrote:

1500?

NO. The focus should be 100% on the 800. Do you really think he's anywhere close to being able to compete wtih Timothy, Elijah or Ingebrigtsen?

I think you can train 800 guys and get some of them better at 1500 but it may hurt their 800. He's never shown anything at 1500 that would indicate he'd medal. So at least do the 800 this year and next. If he wants to try 1500 for 2024, then have at it.

At 800, even this year which I considered to not be a great year for him, he made the World final.

Yes,the OP assumed he'd be contending for gold but that's what a lot of people assume. We always assume people will get better and better but in reality there often is just a better phenom coming through to snag the gold.

Mo Farah is the exception, not the rule.

Lee LaBadie, Murphy's college coach is outstanding and it appears to be a great move. It also helps with the stain of being linked to NOP where any success was rightfully questioned.

CM appeared to have more potential at 1500 leaving college. He only turned to the 800 when his OT double went bad and it was 800 or nothing. Then, after an 800 medal, the focus stayed there. Now, after coaching change, some 800 staleness etc. it might be the time to explore the 1500 again. Not a move, just see what happens. This dual training/racing focus is when he ran best.

Whether you or I think he shouldn't move to the 1500 is meaningless. What he and LaBadie thinks is the only thing that counts and 1500 was where they were seeming to lean when they worked together. That 'might' be their target.

Opinionated guy wrote:

CM appeared to have more potential at 1500 leaving college. He only turned to the 800 when his OT double went bad and it was 800 or nothing. Then, after an 800 medal, the focus stayed there. Now, after coaching change, some 800 staleness etc. it might be the time to explore the 1500 again. Not a move, just see what happens. This dual training/racing focus is when he ran best.

Actually the 800m rounds were before the 1500 at the 16 Olympic Trials, and after he won the 800 at the trials he decided to go all in there for the Olympics and scratch the 1500.

It was 2017 USAs when he tried that 15/8 double. He won his bronze medal in 2016.

Fact Checker 2 wrote:

It was 2017 USAs when he tried that 15/8 double. He won his bronze medal in 2016.

Thanks! I thought I might have had the wrong year when I typed it but was too lazy to look it up. This is not the first time I said 2016 on CM's attempted double, so I've been wrong on the same topic before.

Thanks for the correction.

Sorry for the obnoxious multiple posts!

Each time I clicked on 'post reply' a red warning came up saying "your post could not be saved" and it remained on the "post a reply" page. It also said "you are posting too fast, wait 5 seconds."

I thought it was not being posted.

I kept trying new things but the result remained.

Learning curve for me and the new boards.

Call me Technologically Impaired Opinionated guy.

Lebadie seemed to be much better for Murpy's 800m and his kick. Alberto was trying to transition him to the 1500 and it wasn't working.

LaBadie trained CM across all disciplines, even XC. Murphy had quite a quality range.

I am not suggesting he should return to the 1500 as his emphasized event. I think if his training mimics what he did in college with LaBadie, the 1500 may reappear in some respect. I am curious what others think.

I was not aware Salazar was pushing the 1500. Enlighten me.

Opinionated guy wrote:

Fact Checker 2 wrote:

It was 2017 USAs when he tried that 15/8 double. He won his bronze medal in 2016.

Thanks! I thought I might have had the wrong year when I typed it but was too lazy to look it up. This is not the first time I said 2016 on CM's attempted double, so I've been wrong on the same topic before.

Thanks for the correction.

Actually he never got the Olympic standard in the 15. He bombed out of both in 17 trying to do the double in 4 days instead of a week.

Will not be any solid training partners. Should have joined with Brazier.

Opinionated guy wrote:

LaBadie trained CM across all disciplines, even XC. Murphy had quite a quality range.

I am not suggesting he should return to the 1500 as his emphasized event. I think if his training mimics what he did in college with LaBadie, the 1500 may reappear in some respect. I am curious what others think.

I was not aware Salazar was pushing the 1500. Enlighten me.

I don’t remember when/where I saw it but they definitely said that Murphy was focusing on the 1500 most of the year under Salazar (until he could only make it in the 8 again).

he should train with Katelyn Tuohy

ThatAverageRunner wrote:

I don’t remember when/where I saw it but they definitely said that Murphy was focusing on the 1500 most of the year under Salazar (until he could only make it in the 8 again).

I wonder how Salazar's 1500 training differs from LaBadie's?

Sans the obvious sending Murphy hollowed out books!

He will be good at the 1500, just needs more time. He should be all in on the 800 for tokyo, the shift the focus to 800/1500 in 2024 or just 1500.

Just as Drew has focused on the 1500 while he is young when he will be best at 5,000m later on