Kid slaps teachers hand, calls him a ‘cracker’ - Teacher is arrested

Good on the teacher wrote:

Teachers like this should be given raises. Maybe the kid will think twice about misbehaving next time.

BS. All schools have a protocol to follow, and rest assured, that doesn't involve putting your hands on the kid when he's not being a physical danger to anyone. Allowing physical altercations to go unchecked in schools results in chaos. Nope. Bad idea. "Maybe the kid will think twice." Such stupidity. When you normalize physical altercations like that, what happens when you have a future professional athlete in the school who is more physically capable than any adult in the school?

Kid misbehaves in class, the teacher should call down to the Principal. Kid is removed from class, and his level of resisting directions there adds to his punishment up to and including expulsion. Kid is dealt with, the rest of the class respects the teacher for not blowing a gasket, and it's a good role model moment for them.

I got paddled in first grade for reading too fast.

Didn’t stop me.

josh1988 wrote:

ibacktheteacher wrote:

We complain about poor public schools but they are only poor because the kids are out of control and misbehaving.

Well that's just not true. I work construction in schools all the time. They have lead paint falling off walls and asbestos ceiling tiles literally falling onto students. Some classrooms have 30-40 kids in them.

just because it's not the Ritz, doesn't influence behavior.

I went to an inner city school and I can tell you the problem until your ears bleed:

NOT HAVING TWO PARENTS ACTIVE IN KIDS LIVES

You know, it was funny all the poor Vietnamese, Laotian and Congolese immigrants kids at the front active and engaged and getting good grades despite being guests or newly arrived in this country.

I can tell also tell you who was in the back, on their headphones asleep not giving a sh1t.

All he had to do was put him on the list for corporal punishment (which is still allowed in 18 US states, including Florida). Give that boy a paddlin.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKiLfH3DVGc

Back in the 1970's behavior like that kids' would have resulted in the teacher throwing the kid against the wall. And back then the kid would never tell is parents because they'd also throw him against the wall

Teaching is one helluva tough gig these days and a lot of today's parents fail at parenting.

same as it ever was wrote:

Rich and not starving wrote:

You have not been in a school with black kids. It is happening in every classroom. The principal would need to be in every room all day.

I was a white person in a slight minority in my graduation class without it being anything like what you describe. How do you reconcile that?

I taught at a majority-black school for 3 years between 2015 and 2018, and it was my experience that most students lacked parental involvement, and most of them showed up unprepared for class, wearing headphones, sweatpants and were prone to fall asleep, skip class or just goof off during lessons. How do we reconcile that? Well, we can take a look at student performance, which shows the results of what I've experienced. We can examine the turnover at these schools, where teachers are routinely disrespected and inadequately supported. Majority-black schools are some of the worst schools in the United States, and this is just a matter of fact.

Schooldazed wrote:

Back in the 1970's behavior like that kids' would have resulted in the teacher throwing the kid against the wall. And back then the kid would never tell is parents because they'd also throw him against the wall

Teaching is one helluva tough gig these days and a lot of today's parents fail at parenting.

+1

Rich and not starving wrote:

You have not been in a school with black kids. It is happening in every classroom. The principal would need to be in every room all day.

Do you know that you are racist? (You are wrong too by the way...I used to be a teacher in a school with lots of black and latino kids).

So, your answer is to be physical with any kid who is misbehaving?

No on cares. Stop trying to make racial issues. Find another angle.

Mr. Sars wrote:

same as it ever was wrote:

I was a white person in a slight minority in my graduation class without it being anything like what you describe. How do you reconcile that?

I taught at a majority-black school for 3 years between 2015 and 2018, and it was my experience that most students lacked parental involvement, and most of them showed up unprepared for class, wearing headphones, sweatpants and were prone to fall asleep, skip class or just goof off during lessons. How do we reconcile that? Well, we can take a look at student performance, which shows the results of what I've experienced. We can examine the turnover at these schools, where teachers are routinely disrespected and inadequately supported. Majority-black schools are some of the worst schools in the United States, and this is just a matter of fact.

There is a large difference between “statistically underperforming” (especially when controlled for income) and “the principal would have to be in every classroom all day”. Your story doesn’t invalidate my experience, but my experience does poke a hole in the previous poster’s assertion.

Flagpole wrote:

Rich and not starving wrote:

You have not been in a school with black kids. It is happening in every classroom. The principal would need to be in every room all day.

Do you know that you are racist? (You are wrong too by the way...I used to be a teacher in a school with lots of black and latino kids).

So, your answer is to be physical with any kid who is misbehaving?

He never said that. You're putting words in his mouth. Also, there's a substantial difference between a majority-black school and one with "lots of black and latino kids." Either way, the solution takes the form of enhanced parental involvement and measures for accountability. In this particular instance, both the teacher and the student made poor decisions, and both should be held accountable, differently but absolutely.

No, it doesn't. You may simply not care as much, or you may simply not know enough. It proves nothing.

On the subject of income, regarding those of low income, why are they poor? It makes solid logical sense that wealthier families, who are generally more accountable, would raise students with an appreciation for respect and learning. On the other hand, it makes sense that failures would raise children with less successful habits. Where I taught, nearly every student grew up in a broken household, whether with a single mother or with grandparents or some other family member. These present real problems for young students as they develop into adults, as unstable families tend to correspond with elevated incidence of psychoses, underachievement and criminal activity.

Of course it does.

Poster 1: Youve never experienced X. When X exists, Y always happens.

Poster 2: X existed for me and Y didn’t happen.

Poster 1’s claim is therefore debunked.

runn wrote:

I'm a teacher:

The teacher should not have touched the kid. I suppose if he deals with this kind of stuff on a regular basis with no consequences for their actions I could see him snapping.

I work in a very good school district- last year I had a black kid say something about me singling him out because he was black.

I didn't say word, I went to the phone, called the assistant principal and told him to get the kid out of my class.

When he came to get him, I said- he accused me of being racist, I don't want him back until he truly understands that he was wrong and is willing to apologize.

He did and now we get along great. Just yesterday he told his friends that I was his favorite teacher.

This is what you do. Call whoever is in charge of security. Don't touch anyone, ever. ESPECIALLY women or children.

Mr. Sars wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

Do you know that you are racist? (You are wrong too by the way...I used to be a teacher in a school with lots of black and latino kids).

So, your answer is to be physical with any kid who is misbehaving?

He never said that. You're putting words in his mouth. Also, there's a substantial difference between a majority-black school and one with "lots of black and latino kids." Either way, the solution takes the form of enhanced parental involvement and measures for accountability. In this particular instance, both the teacher and the student made poor decisions, and both should be held accountable, differently but absolutely.

The dude said he guessed I had never been in a school with black kids. He was wrong. Looks like you both are racist. You should stop that.

How do you reconcile this with the confidence interval?

Flagpole wrote:

Mr. Sars wrote:

He never said that. You're putting words in his mouth. Also, there's a substantial difference between a majority-black school and one with "lots of black and latino kids." Either way, the solution takes the form of enhanced parental involvement and measures for accountability. In this particular instance, both the teacher and the student made poor decisions, and both should be held accountable, differently but absolutely.

The dude said he guessed I had never been in a school with black kids. He was wrong. Looks like you both are racist. You should stop that.

You need to relax. This isn't about racism, but clearly you desperately need it to be.

Mr. Sars wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

The dude said he guessed I had never been in a school with black kids. He was wrong. Looks like you both are racist. You should stop that.

You need to relax. This isn't about racism, but clearly you desperately need it to be.

All this proves is that it is impossible to elaborate on the differences between cultures without being castigated as a "racist."

Mr. Sars wrote:

same as it ever was wrote:

Of course it does.

Poster 1: Youve never experienced X. When X exists, Y always happens.

Poster 2: X existed for me and Y didn’t happen.

Poster 1’s claim is therefore debunked.

How do you reconcile this with the confidence interval?

He gave an absolute interval for which one example otherwise refutes the claim. Read his statement again. “It is happening in every classroom”.