Non-OTQ Guy (Bromka) Calls Out OTQ Guys for... Bad Training?

As a former D1 runner, I say there's nothing wrong with Bromka's comments - they're facts, in fact.

I heard about PB, followed him, then got annoyed. Well, I get annoyed with nearly anyone who has "followers."

Anyway, he's right. Just like I, a non-marathoner, saying that Peter Bromka's own training is probably not smart. He went deep at CIM in December. Houston is too close and will be a likely failure. Even if he runs well, his trials will suck, and he's flirting with injury.

ILikePeteBBut wrote:

Seriously, where does this guy get off? Maybe run the standard, then bash?

https://twitter.com/bromka/status/1214239223345139712?s=21

This thread is definitely not a Rorschach Test for slow people who could never run 2:18:0X pace for 5k to deliberately misinterpret Peter’s intent.

Former D1 runner checking in wrote:

As a former D1 runner, I say there's nothing wrong with Bromka's comments - they're facts, in fact.

There are a lot of fast D1 runners but even more slower ones.

lupprxc wrote:

"You're either over the standard or under the standard. It's best not to be over."

Savage.

He wore cheater shoes (alpha fly protos) and still couldn't get the standard.

The shoes and that challenging CIM course doesn't help more than a few seconds at best. Stop making excuses when it's obvious that you would never sniff those times. Stop whining.

Each time wrote:

The shoes and that challenging CIM course doesn't help more than a few seconds at best. Stop making excuses when it's obvious that you would never sniff those times. Stop whining.

Are you a "downhills are hard on your quads" guy or a "CIM has rolling hills" guy? Bromka will run at least 3 minutes slower in Houston than he did at CIM. If he wears Streaks he would run 2:25.

the hyena you’ll see wrote:

ILikePeteBBut wrote:

Seriously, where does this guy get off? Maybe run the standard, then bash?

https://twitter.com/bromka/status/1214239223345139712?s=21

This thread is definitely not a Rorschach Test for slow people who could never run 2:18:0X pace for 5k to deliberately misinterpret Peter’s intent.

it's the people who know bromka who deliberately misinterpret the words he wrote because they can guess his intent and it apparently doesnt match the words

his statement was objectively critical. people haven't been saying that he INTENDED to sow doubt in the minds of guys training hard for the trials by implying that they're overtraining.

but whatever his intent, he clearly thought some of the guys whose training he's privy to are overtraining. that's being critical of their training decisions.

if his intent didnt match his words, then his writing / communication skills came up short for that tweet. apparently not a problem for his followers, but he's not doing himself any favors with respect to building an audience if he has to rely on past relationship with his readers for his writing to make sense

You are likely right he will run slower in Houston since he just ran CIM, but don’t act like the course difference is the reason for a 3 minute swing. No way it’s over 30 seconds.

I've run both CIM and Houston. I ran 2:19:52 at CIM and 2:19:50 at Houston (and been 9th place overall in both races)....but not from Dec. -Jan in the same winter. When I did Houston right after CIM I ran like 2:20:30 (so slower, but I was beat up). I'd say CIM is a way faster course though...prob at least 60 sec faster. Obviously it depends on weather conditions. CIM in the last 3 years has had massive packs at OTQ pace working together and it's a point to point net downhill. The weather has been pretty good as well although it was not quite as good this past Dec. At Houston you are often in total no-mans land the last 10km if anywhere between 2:18-2:20 pace and you can hit a headwind in the last 10km. It is quite flat obviously, although the second half for sure runs a bit slower than the first half (the opposite of CIM).

other non-OTQ bro wrote:

You are likely right he will run slower in Houston since he just ran CIM, but don’t act like the course difference is the reason for a 3 minute swing. No way it’s over 30 seconds.

Libertarian Centrist wrote:

As a libertarian, what is important to me is that this man is exercising his freedom of speech.

And we are exercising our freedom of speech to point out how he's a douche who

Horse Shoes

Renato Canova is "qualified" to comment because has a PROVEN track record of immense coaching success. His athletes have set national/world records and won god knows how many global medals and major races, which serve as demonstrations for his expertise. This comparison is ridiculous.

Well, Peter was three seconds over 26 miles away from being "qualified to talk", apparently. Which logically doesn't make much sense

Kudos to Peter for voicing his opinion and putting his name by it. Say what you want, but 2:19 for a working family man is unbelievable. hope he hits it in Houston

This guy (Bromka) has been spamming instagram posts complaining how he could have gotten the OTQ and he was so close that it's just seriously annoying right now. He needs to suck it up or change his training because what's over is over already. He's gotten the chance to wear Nike prototypes which have a higher advantage than flats and he fails to qualify? Well, that's his own fault. He shouldn't just start blaming it on others just because he couldn't qualify. You don't always get a shot and life is not always easy Bromka. Take a look at the Japanese Olympic Marathon Trials. Less than 50 people could run it and they were all runners from the 2:11-2:05 range who qualified. Compared to that, you should be thankful of the US Olympic Marathon Trials to be easier to get into compared to some other countries. Just stop complaining about how you were so close and criticizing everyone else's mileage. IF you want it so bad, then leave the U.S. and be like the Robertson brothers who landed in Iten, Kenya, with nothing and trained to be world champions and olympians. sheesh..

Each time wrote:

The shoes and that challenging CIM course doesn't help more than a few seconds at best. Stop making excuses when it's obvious that you would never sniff those times. Stop whining.

you obviously know absolutely nothing, coming from someone who has wear tested those shoes and have indeed way more than "sniffed" those times. The alpha fly photos will give you way more than a few seconds... I would say a few seconds a mile.. yes.

I think he's just reassuring himself because he ran CIM and now he's running Houston and he's not able to hit high mileage in between the two races...lol he seems like a pretty humble down to earth guy on his social media and interviews. He hit 100s leading up to CIM

Uhhh... He's literally been doing the opposite. People need to stop hating on people I swear.

"Will you petition to get into the Trials?" many people have asked me. To which I respond, "on what grounds?" I truly appreciate their sentiment, their desire to see me on that stage is flattering. And I get that I was close. But the very definition of the standard is its simplicity. You're in or out.

He's been expressing that he wants to get in fair and square and accepted his fate with grace.

He wore the next% lol there's tons of photos

CIM has 700 feet of gain in it