Decided to be plant based after watching The Game Changers, anyone can share how has this diet helped your performance?

If you are dumb enough be believe that vegan poop, then you should do some research into the Atkins diet. At least the Atkins fad won't kill you like vegan diets do.

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I figure I will get to eat a lot more food because vegan foods tend to be lower calorie.. and I am a volume eater

plus I love myself some carbs

Would like to hear more about vegan letsrunner and their improvements over distance running.

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I mean you just watched that whole movie about it and are changing your life around what more are you looking for?

My experience? My head felt a little clearer at times but my performance level dipped substantially over the course of a year. Went back to eating meat one or two times a week and within 3 months was back to my old faster paces.

I don’t know any serious athletes that have been vegan for more than a year or two.

Was vegan for 3 years in college, was fine, set most longer PR’s as a vegan. Stopped because I eventually came to disagree with the moral grounds on which I was vegan. Also got very bloated pretty often due to the volume you have to consume to keep on any muscle at all. Skeleton is not a good look. Switched back to eating meat etc and also started to lift since I developed some health issues over that time period. I recommend eating a normal diet consisting of a lot of “whole” foods, dairy etc.

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He's coming. You know he is. This will not stop him.

please dont attack me wrote:

I figure I will get to eat a lot more food because vegan foods tend to be lower calorie.. and I am a volume eater

plus I love myself some carbs

Would like to hear more about vegan letsrunner and their improvements over distance ruinning.

Please if you do not have anything helpful to say do not comment thanks

Was vegan for over two years. For health and not ethical reasons. I hate animals. I initially felt great.... Until I didn't. I even supplemented. Vitamins. Nooch. Tried all kinds of stuff to make me feel right. Eventually started having weird teeth pain and feeling a bit malnourished and unhealthy.

After many threads on LRC that mentioned teeth were the first to go, I decided to stop the experiment. I weened myself back to meat and went back to feeling better.

YMMV.

Did vegetarian not vegan for about 5-6 months a couple years ago. My body hated it. Felt depleted constantly despite getting enough calories plus felt bloated almost the entire time. Finally gave it up and went back to keto (low mileage) and clean eating with a lot more carbs at 50+mpw and feel great. Like any form of diet. It works for some, not for others.

After reading Chris Kresser's notes debunking most of the documentary I decided to keep eating meat.

http://chriskresser.com/wp-content/uploads/Show-Notes-Debunking-the-Game-Changers.pdf?utm_source=hs_automation&utm_medium=email&utm_content=79476616&_hsenc=p2ANqtz-9EqrlwIh690MzI6sdMbG5wxKj2QVK0DKt3qmM0-0bmHp51UV8Y51_bNUnAysspsSfD8mYwGlMbZ1vosuMPQVoBKMnTeg&_hsmi=79476616

Video ain’t enough? wrote:

please dont attack me wrote:

I figure I will get to eat a lot more food because vegan foods tend to be lower calorie.. and I am a volume eater

plus I love myself some carbs

Would like to hear more about vegan letsrunner and their improvements over distance running.

Please if you do not have anything helpful to say do not comment thanks

I don’t know any serious athletes that have been vegan for more than a year or two.

LOL

That is literally the whole point of the documentary. Literally. The entire documentary, every single second of it, is about serious athletes who are vegan and have been vegan.

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After reading Chris Kresser's notes debunking most of the documentary I decided to keep eating meat.

http://chriskresser.com/wp-content/uploads/Show-Notes-Debunking-the-Game-Changers.pdf?utm_source=hs_automation&utm_medium=email&utm_content=79476616&_hsenc=p2ANqtz-9EqrlwIh690MzI6sdMbG5wxKj2QVK0DKt3qmM0-0bmHp51UV8Y51_bNUnAysspsSfD8mYwGlMbZ1vosuMPQVoBKMnTeg&_hsmi=79476616

That debunking has been debunked.

Hourunner wrote:

Did vegetarian not vegan for about 5-6 months a couple years ago. My body hated it. Felt depleted constantly despite getting enough calories plus felt bloated almost the entire time. Finally gave it up and went back to keto (low mileage) and clean eating with a lot more carbs at 50+mpw and feel great. Like any form of diet. It works for some, not for others.

Nope, you just f’ed it up. People are a lot more the same than different. It’s incredible how much we are alike. You can take organs out of one person and put them in another.

How many bones are in your foot? Same as me. Body temp? Are you at 200 degrees? Nope. Your basically the same as everyone else within 1% or so.

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Hourunner wrote:

Did vegetarian not vegan for about 5-6 months a couple years ago. My body hated it. Felt depleted constantly despite getting enough calories plus felt bloated almost the entire time. Finally gave it up and went back to keto (low mileage) and clean eating with a lot more carbs at 50+mpw and feel great. Like any form of diet. It works for some, not for others.

Nope, you just f’ed it up. People are a lot more the same than different. It’s incredible how much we are alike. You can take organs out of one person and put them in another.

How many bones are in your foot? Same as me. Body temp? Are you at 200 degrees? Nope. Your basically the same as everyone else within 1% or so.

Chimps are too. That percentage makes a big difference.

How about only being vegan part of the time? I wonder what benefits there are too eating vegan regularly but not exclusively.

Orthodox Christians are basically vegan every Wednesday and Friday.

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Video ain’t enough? wrote:

I don’t know any serious athletes that have been vegan for more than a year or two.

LOL

That is literally the whole point of the documentary. Literally. The entire documentary, every single second of it, is about serious athletes who are vegan and have been vegan.

Right, and I literally know none of them. Literally.

Come to think of it, I also don't know any vegans that didn't have an eating disorder before and/or after becoming vegan.

You won't get better or get worse. Food is just food. Animal products don't give a boost to performance but they also don't wreck performance. You'll continue to get better over time just the same.

You also won't really prevent heart disease and lower cancer risk if you don't cut refined oils and refined proteins from your diet too. Hydrogenated oil is everywhere.

Focus on eating starchy stuff. Make high calorie starchy food the center of you meals. Garnish with greens and color. Add nuts, seeds, avacados, and nut butters.

Nate Diaz is not a true Vegan. He eats eggs and fish. That movie made it out to be like he was the great vegan messiah.

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Hourunner wrote:

Did vegetarian not vegan for about 5-6 months a couple years ago. My body hated it. Felt depleted constantly despite getting enough calories plus felt bloated almost the entire time. Finally gave it up and went back to keto (low mileage) and clean eating with a lot more carbs at 50+mpw and feel great. Like any form of diet. It works for some, not for others.

Nope, you just f’ed it up. People are a lot more the same than different. It’s incredible how much we are alike. You can take organs out of one person and put them in another.

How many bones are in your foot? Same as me. Body temp? Are you at 200 degrees? Nope. Your basically the same as everyone else within 1% or so.

2/10 troll attempt or you missed biology class. You know organ donors have to be matched right? Organs aren’t universal. Also since we’re all the same I guess everyone has the same food allergies, same lactose intolerance, same GI issues? Our bodies aren’t as similar as you’d like to think and our reactions to foods differ from person to person.

Hourunner wrote:

You just want to eat what you want wrote:

Nope, you just f’ed it up. People are a lot more the same than different. It’s incredible how much we are alike. You can take organs out of one person and put them in another.

How many bones are in your foot? Same as me. Body temp? Are you at 200 degrees? Nope. Your basically the same as everyone else within 1% or so.

2/10 troll attempt or you missed biology class. You know organ donors have to be matched right? Organs aren’t universal. Also since we’re all the same I guess everyone has the same food allergies, same lactose intolerance, same GI issues? Our bodies aren’t as similar as you’d like to think and our reactions to foods differ from person to person.

You are like a fish that doesn’t know he’s swimming in water.

Where is Sag Vagana when you need him