Another American Goes Down (Alexandria Gochenour Banned for Doping)

doctorj wrote:

runnER/DR wrote:

Americans try to catch their cheats. Kenyans try to hide them. Huge difference.

Yep. On the hiding thingy, so does GB (the untouchables Sir Mo and Chris Froom come to my mind)

Devil's Pal wrote:

LoneStarXC wrote:

https://mobile.twitter.com/jeffsfarms/status/1208434302570156032

According to her profile from Arkansas, Jeff Gochenour is her father.

He apparently was also her HS coach.

Wow, even her own father and former coach doesn't believe her story! That's a good burn if I ever saw one.

You're not a particularly bright individual are you?

Devil's Pal wrote:

Maybe Americans should clean up their house before railing on Kenya.

No. I think I’ll continue complaining about both.

You are an American and you just mentioned it! Am I correct?

noticer of idjits wrote:

Devil's Pal wrote:

Wow, even her own father and former coach doesn't believe her story! That's a good burn if I ever saw one.

You're not a particularly bright individual are you?

Leave the OP alone; Jeff Gochenour’s tweet is pretty ambiguous as to what he is calling BS.

Yes, that is all Instagram is these days. Girls posting endless selfies of themselves fishing for comments and followers and likes. A place any cute girl and some not so cute can be models and stars without leaving their couch. Let me go live and stare at the camera while 2,000 men watch and constantly tell me how cute/hot I am.

She is a great athlete with many years of high level results. I hope USADA re-instates her.

Not so sure wrote:

She is a great athlete with many years of high level results. I hope USADA re-instates her.

The same can be said about Asbel Kiprop, Jemima Sumgong, Eunice Kirwa, Abraham Kiptum, Liliya Shobukhova, Aslı Alptekin, and countless other dopers. Gochenour can come back when her ban is over just like everybody else (except Alptekin; she’s banned for life).

Devil's Pal wrote:

Funny how no Americans mentioned the 4 year ban of American heptathlete Alexandria Gochenour that was revealed by the USADA on Dec 17th, 2019. She was caught with ostarine in her body, an anabolic steroid. Plenty more where this came from. Maybe Americans should clean up their house before railing on Kenya.

https://www.usada.org/sanction/alexandria-gochenour-accepts-doping-sanction/

As a distance runner/fan I am concerned with those distance runners who cheat. KENYA.

I regret cheaters in other events but my main concern is the cheats from Kenya and Epo-thia.

346bway wrote:

As a distance runner/fan I am concerned with those distance runners who cheat. KENYA.

I regret cheaters in other events but my main concern is the cheats from Kenya and Epo-thia.

Oh, come on. Americans cheat way more than any other country.

Devil's Pal wrote:

346bway wrote:

As a distance runner/fan I am concerned with those distance runners who cheat. KENYA.

I regret cheaters in other events but my main concern is the cheats from Kenya and Epo-thia.

Oh, come on. Americans cheat way more than any other country.

On a per capita basis, U.S. would have to have seven dopers for every one of Kenya's to surpass them (which is being generous since 90+% of their athletes are from a handful of tribes).

YMMV wrote:

On a per capita basis, U.S. would have to have seven dopers for every one of Kenya's to surpass them (which is being generous since 90+% of their athletes are from a handful of tribes).

Oh, that's funny. The US puts up doping theatrics instead of actually catching the cheaters like Kenya does. Look at all those NOP dopers still walking free. Don't give me that BS that the US is cleaner because you catch fewer cheaters. Carl Lewis has repeatedly shown that the USADA and US gov covers up hundreds of positive doping cases each year, like when he tested positive multiple times before the Olympics.

astro wrote:

In the US it is more entrepeneurial, with athletes and trainers working with labs such as Balco. Think Marion Jones. But unlike Kenya the government isn't in on it.

Government not in on it? You don't think USATF covered up Ajee Wilson and other athletes who have tested positive?

Les wrote:

astro wrote:

In the US it is more entrepeneurial, with athletes and trainers working with labs such as Balco. Think Marion Jones. But unlike Kenya the government isn't in on it.

Government not in on it? You don't think USATF covered up Ajee Wilson and other athletes who have tested positive?

I don't buy into that because you would have a whistleblower(s) come forward on something that serious as the USATF & the Government covering up positive tests.

How did the Russians get into the mess they're in? One word: Whistleblowers. First there was Yuliya Stepanova, ticked off that she was left off the National team, secretly recorded conversations with teammates & coaches/doctors providing the information to Hajo Seppelt for his documentary. Secondly, doping doctor Grigory Rodchenkov came forward and spilled the beans about the massive doping scheme conducted at Sochi where the Russians more than doubled the number of medals won compared to Vancouver. These two whistleblowers single handedly took down the mighty Russian State-Sponsored doping Empire.

Another good example is Operation Aderlass, the most sophisticated blood doping program ever devised, involving athletes primarily in Europe from 2011 through 2019. Another disgruntled athlete blew open the operation when he bypassed WADA and went straight to the Austrian law enforcement authorities.

And don't forget the whistleblower of all time, Floyd Landis, pissed off that Armstrong and his new Radio Shack team wouldn't hire him coming off a doping ban, dropped a dime to USADA destroying Armstrong's career in one quick measure.

So, for those who are chanting Government cover-ups with American athletes and that jazz -- where's the whistleblowers? ?

Where's Coevett? Only a very selective interest in the subject of doping I guess.

Morally bankruptcy is in their DNA wrote:

Gochenour is clearly a Russian last name.

^This.

Let's be realistic about this wrote:

So, for those who are chanting Government cover-ups with American athletes and that jazz -- where's the whistleblowers? ?

You are a stupid Moran. Carl Lewis already blew the whistle on the USADA and the US government for systematically covering up hundreds of positive American doping tests before the Olympics.

Devil's Pal wrote:

Let's be realistic about this wrote:

So, for those who are chanting Government cover-ups with American athletes and that jazz -- where's the whistleblowers? ?

You are a stupid Moran. Carl Lewis already blew the whistle on the USADA and the US government for systematically covering up hundreds of positive American doping tests before the Olympics.

Read this about the shameful systematic cover ups of American doping tests by US officials that involved Carl Lewis and hundreds of American dopers. It makes the Russians look like saints. And why don't you know anything about this? Because all you like to do is point fingers at the Russians instead of looking into a mirror.

Russians = cheating dopers wrote:

Morally bankruptcy is in their DNA wrote:

Gochenour is clearly a Russian last name.

^This.

it's a Swiss German surname. Idiot.