Alfie wrote:
Looking at his marathon stats on Strava.
His first 2K are sub 4 min mile (GAP)!
maybe that's evidence that you shouldn't trust what you see on Strava
and I certainly wouldn't trust heart rate data
japanese runner did 500k/310 miles the last 13 days before running 2:10
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maybe that's evidence that you shouldn't trust what you see on Strava
and I certainly wouldn't trust heart rate data -
it's the guy in white singlet
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..what were the paces of those 3x 8km ..?!
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Jzs wrote:
..what were the paces of those 3x 8km ..?!
Got to be like MP or so.
It would be interesting to compare the high mileage runners (call it. guys who run 120-140mpw during the 12 or so weeks before the. race) with the ultra high milage guys (i.e. north of 150+) and see if there is any correlation between more mileage and better performance. Comparing the 150+ guys to the 80mpw one just doesn't have a lot of value.
I do notice he seems to have cranked the mileage down a bit. I know a lot of guys try to do that big mileage block (I am a stud at 120, just imagine 150) and then realize toning it down a bit is better. Figuring out if that better is at 140,180, or 200 is the tough part. I also wonder a bit if modern shoes let you get in a bit more training (call it 10%) with better cushioning and support. Those 60s shoes were rough:) -
Jzs wrote:
..what were the paces of those 3x 8km ..?!
3:15/km -
The Ghost of Tom McArdle wrote:
Jzs wrote:
..what were the paces of those 3x 8km ..?!
3:15/km
At 1300m elevation, too. -
curious1986 wrote:
Jo Fukuda ran 300k the second week and 200k in race week before the Fukuoka Marathon 2019.
553k in 2 weeks. How is that possible ?
I'm very aware that he is running extremly slow and all of this is basically active recovery. 2:10:33 is close to his PB (2:09:52 ) so one must assume that he ran 2:10 not despite the 500k the days before but because of it. Can anyone explain that to me ? How can he be fresh after all of these hours on his feet ? Or in other words - why wouldnt he be fresher with half of that milage?
Fascinating anyway...
Check his strava account.
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dude just ran 2:11:52 at Fukuoka
kawauchi 2:13:59 -
He apparently fell pretty early into the race and lost his group. Also planned to run a marathon in 2 weeks again (Hofu), but unsure if it still will be possible now.
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38 japanese runners under 2:20
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macallan- wrote:
38 japanese runners under 2:20
Earlier this year in Tokyo there were like 38 sub 2:13 -
This discussion (like many on these boards) remind me of a discussion between George Sheehan and Bob Campbell back about 60 years ago. They were talking training concepts had similar, but different perfect plans. I’ve already felt that training was more of an art than a science. That is to say in science H2O is water regardless if it’s from Nairobi or Boston. However if I do 8 x 400 in 75 with a minute rest it doesn’t mean someone else would run the same time off of that workout. That’s why many high school teams are all doing the same thing with different results. In art if I slop some paint on a canvas it looks like Kandinsky’s composition 7, but his sells for millions mine looks like something hung on the fridge. Sheehan called it “everyone is an experiment in one”. We all can do the same thing with different results. Campbell was more do this and expect that. I think the same holds true for our runners. Why do many non American sprinters not lift heavy weights- whereas all American sprinters do. Is it because they are only planning on sprinting (moving their body a set distance as fast as they can) where American are playing football and need to move someone out of their way? It’s all in doing what you feel will work for you. I’m guessing that at least 99% of the readers on this board would be satisfied with ONLY a 2:10 marathon- I know I would be.
