They run about 10K each match, and they probably have a ridiculous quad-strength and aerobic base...
But can they average 5:45 pace for 13.1 miles?
They run about 10K each match, and they probably have a ridiculous quad-strength and aerobic base...
But can they average 5:45 pace for 13.1 miles?
Not even close.
They probably couldn't hold that pace for a mile.
no not for a half but they could def go at least close to sub 5 in the mile
They could run sub 5 and sub 18. They could probably both train to run significantly faster quite quickly.
dfa wrote:
They run about 10K each match, and they probably have a ridiculous quad-strength and aerobic base...
But can they average 5:45 pace for 13.1 miles?
Ronaldo would throw himself on the ground and fake an injury after mile 2 so we would never know.
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/70/6f/15/706f156a596f794493ecee0f80d6c643.jpgThey are already the best athletes in the world.distance running is for clumbsy skinny weak kids who got beat up at football practice.
This is absolutely ridiculous. A million threads on this every year and they are all terrible and filled with nonsense. I personally ran with Federer not too long ago and the boards on other threads believe he can run sub 15 with some training. He can't even run under 5 for the mile with training. Don't get me wrong he's a great guy but the man was panting after a single stride at over 6 minute per mile pace. This tracks with my own experience. I could play basketball for hours and I was decent at it but I couldn't run distance at all. I was garbage at it. Sure there are some people that are good at both but most of those were track athletes in the offseason.
ShilohDoesntCare wrote:
I personally ran with Federer not too long ago and the boards on other threads believe he can run sub 15 with some training. He can't even run under 5 for the mile with training. Don't get me wrong he's a great guy but the man was panting after a single stride at over 6 minute per mile pace.
I find that hard to believe. At least you're surely exaggerating a little there.
Back when Superstars was a popular TV program in the UK, the soccer players would nearly always turn in respectable 800m times, only beaten by actual runners. And that was before the Premier League when training became far more professional and the drink culture put an end to.
For example, the former Chelsea player Dennis Wise, who was known for getting drunk every night and beating up taxi drivers and the like, ran 2:08 to finish second behind the Commonwealth 400m champion Duane Ladejo (2:07).
I've read of a number of top Premiership footballers who clearly had a lot of talent at track when young (especially it seems 800m). Equally, I could make a list of British middle-distance runners today who have stated that they wanted to be Premiership footballers but weren't good enough. Not to mention that both Steve Ovett and Steve Cram were both talented footballers and almost certainly would have chosen football had they grown up in the 21st century.
not even close, I think that they are not able to do this
Why is this relevant? The 800 is a totally different event than the one being discussed here. Of course an exceptional athlete can turn in a reasonable 800 performance rolling out of bed, it is a largely speed based event...
highhoppingworm wrote:
Why is this relevant? The 800 is a totally different event than the one being discussed here. Of course an exceptional athlete can turn in a reasonable 800 performance rolling out of bed, it is a largely speed based event...
Exactly. A two lap race is nothing like a half marathon. You can't just roll out of bed and run that fast for that long without training specifically for it.
If you're asking can they get up this morning and run one perhaps not, but give them 3 weeks to train them yes. I was a mediocre runner who ran 1:21, they are world class chiseled athletes
This is absurd. 3 weeks of training for a 1:15 HM? Give them an 8-12 week cycle and perhaps.
First of all you got to look at their BMI
Cristiano Ronaldo 1,87 x 83 kg BMI 23,74
Lionel Messi 1,70 x 72kg Bmi 24,91
Just from these value I doubt they can run a 1:15 half except if they would have Kipchoce talent. Their Bmi is too high , is the one of a sprinter.
But Ronaldo is very fast, I mean , I dont know his times on 100m but he used to train with Obikwelu and in a football match he had a 37km/h speed something like 95m in 10 sec thats what they guess but of course is far from exact.
So he s a very good sprinter. The half marathon I dont think is possible for him right now , except years of training and change his body.
Messi too is very fast. Not as tall like Ronaldo but his weight shows big muscles for an half marathon. Maybe with some years of serious training he can reach that time.
Why i m talking about BMI. Cos is the most important factor to see if somebody can be good for distance running (before to know other value like Vo2max, Lactic threshold).
Now lets take: Neymar 1,75 x 68kg BMI 22,2
Modric 1,72x 66kg
Griezmann 1,76 x67kg
Here things are different we have players with a lower BMI and I m sure that with a good training (of course) they have good chance to run a 1:15 half marathon. Of course their genetic Vo2max will be the key to have good results, but sure they already have a good BMI for distance running.
1:15 is no joke. I think going sub 1:20 would be a stretch for most soccer stars if they started training now and had the rest of their lives to accomplish that objective. They're typically best suited for the 800m with a good combination of explosive speed and stamina to maintain a fast pace for no longer than one mile. Keeping a steady pace of 6:00 per mile is a much different task and while it is possible for them to train and achieve that, it would take a lot of work.
Back in middle school I could run a 6 minute mile off of going to soccer practice 3 times a week. Anyone who says that pro
players can't break 5 in the mile is insane. I don't know what these guys could run for the half, but I do know that they both
have infinitely more athletic talent than anyone on this board.
Coevett wrote:
ShilohDoesntCare wrote:
I personally ran with Federer not too long ago and the boards on other threads believe he can run sub 15 with some training. He can't even run under 5 for the mile with training. Don't get me wrong he's a great guy but the man was panting after a single stride at over 6 minute per mile pace.
I find that hard to believe. At least you're surely exaggerating a little there.
Back when Superstars was a popular TV program in the UK, the soccer players would nearly always turn in respectable 800m times, only beaten by actual runners. And that was before the Premier League when training became far more professional and the drink culture put an end to.
For example, the former Chelsea player Dennis Wise, who was known for getting drunk every night and beating up taxi drivers and the like, ran 2:08 to finish second behind the Commonwealth 400m champion Duane Ladejo (2:07).
I've read of a number of top Premiership footballers who clearly had a lot of talent at track when young (especially it seems 800m). Equally, I could make a list of British middle-distance runners today who have stated that they wanted to be Premiership footballers but weren't good enough. Not to mention that both Steve Ovett and Steve Cram were both talented footballers and almost certainly would have chosen football had they grown up in the 21st century.
I looked it up and you're 21st century comments about Ovett and Cram and they are not accurate. Ovett quit football because he didn't like having to depend on teammates and Cram because he received more attention as a runner than he did playing football.
This is a complete cop out. Nobody is saying that they hey aren’t two of the best athletes in the world. People are simply (and correctly) stating that they could not sustain sub 6 minute mile pace for 13.1 miles without some longish term extensive training.
Heck, Lance Armstrong could barely break 3 off the couch. Consider that.
My guesses for Ronaldo off the couch by distance. All times FAT. Notice the big drop off from 400 to 800 and then from 1600 to 5000.
100:10.5
200: 21.7
400: 49.5
800: 2:00
1600: 4:35
5000: 17:00
10000: 38:30
HM: 1:27
M: 3:15
Thoughts?
highhoppingworm wrote:
This is a complete cop out. Nobody is saying that they hey aren’t two of the best athletes in the world. People are simply (and correctly) stating that they could not sustain sub 6 minute mile pace for 13.1 miles without some longish term extensive training.
Heck, Lance Armstrong could barely break 3 off the couch. Consider that.
My guesses for Ronaldo off the couch by distance. All times FAT. Notice the big drop off from 400 to 800 and then from 1600 to 5000.
100:10.5
200: 21.7
400: 49.5
800: 2:00
1600: 4:35
5000: 17:00
10000: 38:30
HM: 1:27
M: 3:15
Thoughts?
I think these times make sense. Michael Owen (little pollock that he is) was fast as anything on the football pitch and ran a 3’45 marathon.