NRR - J.K. Rowling Controversy

Cancel culture is a twitter phenomenon. Online zealots use smear terms to intimidate others. The real problem is that companies and organizations are so risk adverse that they keep needlessly rewarding these tactics. Just needs to be faced down.

Sorry but the idea that saying that men and women have biological differences which do not change no matter how you identify and that rational boundaries such as that biological men should not compete in women's sports is now bigotry or whatever stupid acronym gets applied is clinically insane. It is a travesty.

Atually wrote:

lol.....wut? wrote:

alt-left? pshht....really?

What may seem alt-left to you probably is just current mainstream.

Alt-right are literally neo-nazis and extreme white supremacists, the ideological descendants of the KKK

...well and the actual KKK too for that matter....

and you think JK Rowling is as far left as neo-Nazis and the KKK are right? ok buddy

Actually she goes along with the Israeli propaganda and is now being consumed smears from the Gay Lobby, modeled directly on the dishonest tactics of the Jewish Lobby.

like I said, she holds mainstream political beliefs. It's your views that are extremists and alt-right.

just as i thought wrote:

Atually wrote:

Actually she goes along with the Israeli propaganda and is now being consumed smears from the Gay Lobby, modeled directly on the dishonest tactics of the Jewish Lobby.

like I said, she holds mainstream political beliefs. It's your views that are extremists and alt-right.

I think you just missed the UK elections.

Rowling is part of the far-left wing of the Labour party. They got decimated.

Her views are extreme and not mainstream at all.

Hard to get legitimate answers when everyone is screaming.

Did the person who got fired really just state that sex is real or was she refusing to call someone by the gender they identify as?

The former is a scientific statement; the latter is being a d!ck.

Kut the Krap wrote:

Really? Denying the reality of gender or lose your livelihood is a small thing to you?

You are being willingly disingenuous here to try to make your point.

Saying 'he' instead of 'she' is a small thing and you know that. No one is asking anyone else to change their beliefs or their understanding of reality.

Joplas wrote:

The woman in question, Maya Forstater has raised over $100,000 through crowdfunding. She will likely raise even more from triggered conservatives.

The whole thing is a scam. Conservatives are very gullible and prone to faux outrage. If you want to raise money from gullible conservatives, you pick a fight with people perceived as liberals then present yourself as a victim of the so called "Liberal Mob" and before you know it, gullible conservatives will flock to your gofundme page giving their hard earned money.

Remember Brian Kolfage?

He raised $20m using gofundme. Then he changed tune and decided he was not gonna build the wall after all.

Its an old trick: Pick a fight with people perceived as "Liberals", then open a gofundme page and ask gullible conservatives for money.

This is a very black-or-white though common view of the world.

finger wrote:

santa is not real, jimmy. wrote:

Some people don't like to lie.

Not that simple. This "woman" with a penis can go into swimming pool changing rooms, clothes store changing rooms, womens restrooms. In the UK there's a rapist who now identifies as a woman, was locked in a women's prison and raped a bunch of the prisoners there.

Lots of trans people are genuine and harmless. Some of them are manipulative abusers. Women have had enough of 'men' in spaces that are supposed to be safe.

Women have NOT had enough of men in their spaces. Huge uproar over a man slapping a female reporter's butt, but nothing from women masters cyclists. You know what I am referring to.

Every time I see a podium photo of Rachel McKinnon, I want to puke at the gutless female cyclists who pose along with him.

Women could nip this men in women's sports in 5 seconds if they would only get organized.

Fair?

Putting the T in it wrote:

Not surprising, but when you consider how widespread Transphobia is today, it's not surprising.

Can you tell me if this is surprising?

"Hard to get legitimate answers when everyone is screaming.

Did the person who got fired really just state that sex is real or was she refusing to call someone by the gender they identify as?

The former is a scientific statement; the latter is being a d!ck."

This.

Armstronglivs wrote:

In the world of identity politics we have reached the point where to disagree is to be labelled as bigotry or heresy and only one view can be considered to be right. The modern day equivalent of the medieval church.

This is disturbingly accurate on many subjects today. God bless you my son.

aoxomoxoa wrote:

Parry Hotter wrote:

J.K. Rowling has now been cancelled:

https://twitter.com/jk_rowling/status/1207646162813100033

I am sure that I am not alone in loving her books. Odd times to be alive.

Yikes. I love the Harry Potter franchise (books and movies). This surprises me coming from Rowling. She presents as such a kind, thoughtful person. I wouldn't think that referencing someone as their preferred/expressed gender would be such a hang up for her.

I find it odd that some people refuse to make reference to someone by that person's preferred gender. They aren't asking you to change your beliefs or your viewpoints, just one little term that is easy for you to change and can be very meaningful and empowering to that person.

Why would you not want to make someone else happy by doing something so easy?

If a Black person kept telling you they were white would it feel easy to keep calling them a white person?

Pope Linus III wrote:

Armstronglivs wrote:

In the world of identity politics we have reached the point where to disagree is to be labelled as bigotry or heresy and only one view can be considered to be right. The modern day equivalent of the medieval church.

This is disturbingly accurate on many subjects today. God bless you my son.

Yawn. Workplaces have standards of behavior. Break those and you get fired. This isn't a hard one.

You don't even have to engage with the crappy science Rowling et al suppose to know to realize she's not being reasonable.

If your boss tells you to treat someone politely and you don't, you can get fired! Truly shocking news!

aoxomoxoa wrote:

You are being willingly disingenuous here to try to make your point.

Saying 'he' instead of 'she' is a small thing and you know that. No one is asking anyone else to change their beliefs or their understanding of reality.

sure... tell the kids or the society that they can lie for small things. Inevitably will end up lying in bigger things... didn't your parents taught you that?

Truth is political. It has always been so since the time of Socrates. Your truth is likely to be someone's treason. Rowling has just learned that.

just as i thought wrote:

Atually wrote:

Actually she goes along with the Israeli propaganda and is now being consumed smears from the Gay Lobby, modeled directly on the dishonest tactics of the Jewish Lobby.

like I said, she holds mainstream political beliefs. It's your views that are extremists and alt-right.

You make Pavlov's dog look like a free thinker.

aoxomoxoa wrote:

Kut the Krap wrote:

Really? Denying the reality of gender or lose your livelihood is a small thing to you?

You are being willingly disingenuous here to try to make your point.

Saying 'he' instead of 'she' is a small thing and you know that. No one is asking anyone else to change their beliefs or their understanding of reality.

Really? Why is this lady being smeared and attacked?

aoxomoxoa wrote:

Yikes. I love the Harry Potter franchise (books and movies). This surprises me coming from Rowling. She presents as such a kind, thoughtful person. I wouldn't think that referencing someone as their preferred/expressed gender would be such a hang up for her.

A kind, thoughtful person doesn't believe sex is imaginary construct that can be changed by someone's mental illness, and then hatefully tries to force the rest of society to pander to the delusions that someone with a Y chromosome can be anything but a male, and someone without it, anything other than a female.

aoxomoxoa wrote:

I love the Harry Potter franchise (books and movies). This surprises me coming from Rowling. She presents as such a kind, thoughtful person.

Did you ever consider that maybe, just maybe, you are the one that is in the wrong?

If I refuse to call this woman a "cat" or "feline", will you call me a "hateful bigot" or a "jerk"?

The answer to this question should be the same for transgenders.

Leftists are emotional pushovers who want to make everybody happy in a utopia. I'm sorry, but this is fantasy.

So Like Literally wrote:

Putting the T in it wrote:

Not surprising, but when you consider how widespread Transphobia is today, it's not surprising.

Can you tell me if this is surprising?

If you think trans-phobia is bad today you should have been around 30 years ago. Make that since forever because sane people will always be afraid of insane people.