A woman had never beaten a man in darts (at the World Champs)....... until Tuesday

rojo wrote:

I would think women and men would equally be as good at darts. Had a woman never beaten a man before simply because not many women play darts?

It's this. Having female qualifiers for the worlds is a fairly recent thing and women's professional darts is not a sport you can get involved in and hope to be a full time player.

So when you've got a small handful of talented female players who are playing full time compared with the many hundreds of full time male players, it's not really a surprise that you don't see many women beating the men.

But I think darts has moved away from the traditional working men's club game in the UK to an actual mainstream sporting option all over Europe and in Asia, so I think we'll start to see a few more shock results and soon some female players getting through Q-School and on to the main tour.

Q-School is rough though, so maybe not this year, even for Fallon. She played well in this match but I doubt it's something she can replicate game after game.

It's the shoes.

a lot of truth here. but can women be as good? are they as good in pool, where there has been more opportunity?

Maybe pool and darts aren't comparable, im just thinking they are both high skill activities based on coordination and touch, rather than strength.

Still a numbers game though. So few women take up either sport compared with men.

As for being good enough, the thing with darts is there's a numerical guide as to how well a player is playing.

If Fallon can average over 90 for a long game in which she struggled on her doubles for a bit, she can do it again. If you can consistently average in the 90s you can compete as a solid PDC pro. I don't expect any female tournament winners in the near future, but no reason why Fallon (or at the moment Lisa Ashton and Mikuru Suzuki) can't get a card and do ok.

Darts is a sport for drunks. Since men are more likely to be drunks, it only makes sense that they would be better at darts.

comedyrelief wrote:

Darts is a sport for drunks. Since men are more likely to be drunks, it only makes sense that they would be better at darts.

To be fair, this isn't far wrong. People played darts in pubs and clubs and it always involved beer no matter what level they were playing at. Wasn't ever really a socially acceptable thing for young women to be getting involved in.

Things have changed quite a bit in recent years though, particularly away from the UK. Even in the UK, there are plenty of places to play and practice away from the pubs.

This was only a first round game. she's not winning the championship any time soon. A man's coordination, mindset, confidence, and motor skills are superior to womens. Some parts of the world are also better than others in this. This is why you see the best pool players from Europe/NA, the best darts guys from Europe, the best archery folks from Korea & Europe, the best shooters from Europe. All males too.

No coordination, need motor skills mastery wrote:

This was only a first round game. she's not winning the championship any time soon. A man's coordination, mindset, confidence, and motor skills are superior to womens. Some parts of the world are also better than others in this. This is why you see the best pool players from Europe/NA, the best darts guys from Europe, the best archery folks from Korea & Europe, the best shooters from Europe. All males too.

There is no reason why women cannot be as good as men in those sports as well as chess. Its more of a society thing that they are not given a chance to compete with the men, that's all.

Something doesn't pass the sniff test. I agree there is no way women are beating men in things like archery, but im not sure they should be beating men in darts either. Wiring is different. The guy she beat, Ted Evetts, may be transgender if you take a quick look. Either that or he got completely distracted checking her out. Could be like the average LR guy and not been within three feet of a woman (other than their moms) his whole life.

not sexist and knows a bit about anatomy wrote:

Haha, no. Male brain size and power (especially from northern latitudes) is massively superior to females. No way are they ever going to be equal in chess.

If this is true, it must be a let down to be one of the ones not blessed with huge brainpower.

In today's SJW world this could easily have been Fixed and Rigged.

Check the Betting Market analysis for showing strange movements...

Men and women should compete against each other for these types of games/sports where there is no physical advantage for the men.

Darts

Pool

Bowling

Shooting

Autosports

Others?

Before they split into male/female in 1996, the Olympic Shooting Sports champ was a woman in 1992, even though the gender split was something like 90-10 at the time (one reason why they made a female division, to create more opportunities).

Two women won medals in such mixed events: Margaret Murdock, silver in Rifle 3 positions (1976) and Zhang Shan, gold in Skeet (1992).

not sexist and knows a bit about anatomy wrote:

Haha, no. Male brain size and power (especially from northern latitudes) is massively superior to females. No way are they ever going to be equal in chess.

As Judit Polgar said, only competing against women makes you weak.

Take a Dive wrote:

In today's SJW world this could easily have been Fixed and Rigged.

Check the Betting Market analysis for showing strange movements...

Swing and a miss.

why not?? wrote:

Men and women should compete against each other for these types of games/sports where there is no physical advantage for the men.

Darts

Pool

Bowling

Shooting

Autosports

Others?

Horse riding, gymnastics, ice skating (dancing versions), snooker, diving, synchronized swimming, golf, table tennis, badminton, bobsledding, luge, downhill mountain biking, curling.

why not?? wrote:

Men and women should compete against each other for these types of games/sports where there is no physical advantage for the men.

Darts

Pool

Bowling

Shooting

Autosports

Others?

There's definitely a physical advantage in bowling.

Take a Dive wrote:

In today's SJW world this could easily have been Fixed and Rigged.

Check the Betting Market analysis for showing strange movements...

Can't rig a 93 average or whatever it was.

not sexist wrote:

why not?? wrote:

Men and women should compete against each other for these types of games/sports where there is no physical advantage for the men.

Darts

Pool

Bowling

Shooting

Autosports

Others?

Horse riding, gymnastics, ice skating (dancing versions), snooker, diving, synchronized swimming, golf, table tennis, badminton, bobsledding, luge, downhill mountain biking, curling.

yeah, ok. Let's just add football, boxing, wrestling, soccer, basketball, baseball, hockey, running, jumping, cycling...