Wait, 60-80 mpw is a lot for pro 1500m runners?

I would have guessed most were around 70 to 90. Some up around 100 for sure. Some less than 70.

In no way would I say 60 to 80 is high or old school mileage.

Yeah, and that would mean that 50 mpw would be pretty average. That's what an average "good" HS boy runs.

How many miles per week did Lagat average?

Maybe that's because female runners tend to cover less miles than males in training. I would imagine that the number for male pro 1500m runners is 80-100 mpw to count as ''high volume''

In Craig Engles interview with Carrie Tollefson, he mentioned running a 70 mile week with no workouts after USAs. If I remember right, he implied that was an easy week, kind of a break.

It may depend on what 60-80mpw means. Is that the biggest week, the yearly average, just during a certain phase? Also, 80 is a lot more than 60. My thought is that a pro 1500 runner would peak around 90mpw and might have a long-term yearly average of 50mpw.

KoKo said in a post Doha interview that she runs 50 - 75 miles per week.

Brazier posted on Instagram something about 35 mile weeks (and Engels joked, that Brazier actually never breaks 30).

Snell and Cerutty ran 100+ miles per week.

Steve Scott was in the 90s.

The Ingebrigtsens run 100+

Lewandowski is 100+

Centro was 90-100+ at NOP

Blankenship runs 100

Houlihan is around 90

Ryan Gregson and the MTC guys are 90-100

I think Walker was pretty high as well

On the other side

Brits Charlie Grice, Josh Kerr and Jake Wightman are 70s

Robby Andrews in the 70s

Webb was in the 70s

Shannon Rowbury is 70-80s

Engels is70-80s

Willis is in the 80s on 6 days a week

There is a range. 70-80s is pretty standard but plenty of guys and gals run more.

lolzz wrote:

Maybe that's because female runners tend to cover less miles than males in training. I would imagine that the number for male pro 1500m runners is 80-100 mpw to count as ''high volume''

^This. You need to think in terms of time on feet instead of mileage. When you are slower, it takes longer time to cover the same mileage.

Lydiard learned that about half a century ago. But on this site, everyone is measured by the same standard -- that of a young male.

Well played.

That answer gives nothing.

How many weeks have they done with that mileage ?

Is that base-phase mileage ?

Willis ran a lot of 100's !

And so on.

We all undestand about importance of mileage, but that only one number gives nothing, because their Yearly mileage

isn't 100 x 52 or 80 x 52.

Base-phase should be nice, for sure about 90-110 for most elite runners, but pre-competitive and competitive season

sometimes has tendency for decent tapering.

Ingebrigtsen's yearly average mileage is only 80, also to another elite runners, even from 70's.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8SwwKGiP-3HRUFCMHRRbHF3YkE/view

Another one " Steve Scott "

https://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=346165

He's got a lot of high mileage weeks, but ! Yearly mileage is 4016 (77 miles per week).

And IMHO that really matters.

So, when we talk about MILEAGE, we should explain what we mean.

Saturday Long Run? wrote:

Snell and Cerutty ran 100+ miles per week.

Steve Scott was in the 90s.

The Ingebrigtsens run 100+

Lewandowski is 100+

Centro was 90-100+ at NOP

Blankenship runs 100

Houlihan is around 90

Ryan Gregson and the MTC guys are 90-100

I think Walker was pretty high as well

On the other side

Brits Charlie Grice, Josh Kerr and Jake Wightman are 70s

Robby Andrews in the 70s

Webb was in the 70s

Shannon Rowbury is 70-80s

Engels is70-80s

Willis is in the 80s on 6 days a week

There is a range. 70-80s is pretty standard but plenty of guys and gals run more.

I swear Engels said he runs in the 60s in whatever podcast he did between USAs and Worlds.

Lagat ran in the 50s-60s (six days per week) for decades and stomps all these guys out.

Well you have obviously never coached female runners. A 50 mile training week for a female is equivalent to a 70 mile week for males.

Big difference between a 1500 and 5000 meter elite. 60 a bit low for both, but doable. 80 is a lot of running for a pure miler.

And as I am constantly telling my kids and their friends, stop starting your sentences with "Wait."

Yaz ya wrote:

Well you have obviously never coached female runners. A 50 mile training week for a female is equivalent to a 70 mile week for males.

You say it like it's some great moral shortcoming. I'm not a coach so yeah obviously. And females aren't THAT much slower than males. It's about time on your feet. If an elite male does 70 miles over 8 hours, that like 6:50 pace average. 50 mpw for a woman over 8 hours would be close to 9:40 pace. Whatever paces you pick, that's about three minutes of pace difference!

Ca$hclay wrote:

Big difference between a 1500 and 5000 meter elite. 60 a bit low for both, but doable. 80 is a lot of running for a pure miler.

And as I am constantly telling my kids and their friends, stop starting your sentences with "Wait."

LMAO I don't know why. It's perfectly grammatically correct, but starting sentences with "And," on the other hand is looked down upon by most grammar snobs.

[quote]confooz-ed wrote:

Not a new article, but it describes Jenny Simpson's 60-80mpw training as high volume and old school. I honestly thought most elite 1500m & 5k runners were around 100 mpw. Am I totally off?

For a female, that's pretty high, typically you don't see many sub-elite to elite female milers break 70 miles a week.

Most good male milers are probably safely in the 60-80 range.

Makhloufi 50mpw

Important factor for milers is what they do outside of running.

Some are coming from the aerobic side and doing a lot of mileage.

Some others are doing a lot of strength and power workouts under bars. And this is not counting in the mileage.

1500m/mile is probably the longuest event where pure speed/force max/power profiles can compete with aerobic profiles.

Then comparing a 60miles / week with 2-3 exhausting force max lifting workout and a 90 miles week with a few core/pliometric workouts takes an other perspective.

None of these are right or wrong. It depends of the natural qualities of each athlete.

Just look at each individual. That is a lot of miles. The lowest I know of is in the 20s miles but with other types of training, too and not just running. I'd never even think of coaching anyone over 50 miles of running unless that individual needed it or wanted it or wanted to focus on being elite at 5,000 or longer.

Miles per week? Talking about the average, median, or mode?