Turkey's Kaan Kigen Özbilen shares the secret to his 2:04:16 European record - "The majority of this comes from genetics."

exrunner wrote:

No more mo wrote:

Great to see Farah's ER surpassed- fake Turk with fake shoes or not. I don't even care at this point.

Really? You’d rather see the European run by a man who grew up in London and is most definitely a Londoner surpassed by a Kenyan who Turkey bought and has never lived in Europe?

Really there is no point in having area records or area competitions if this continues. May as well scrap it all if countries continue this behaviour and just have worlds once a year.

Farah is indeed a blight on athletics but is also a blight for Europeans. I'd rather see a real European have the European record. Actually, that is really the only thing acceptable.

talkin' talent wrote:

Armstronglivs wrote:

Oh, right - the same way a fraudster "augments" their account with someone else's money?

Depends if the fraudster made 95% on their own first.

No, it doesn't. Cheating remains cheating - whether it is done a lot or a little. Doping is cheating. If it wasn't it wouldn't be known as doping - it would be called something like, taking "nutritional supplements". But who would believe that all Ben Johnson and Lance Armstrong were doing was taking a few harmless nutritional supplements? For a start, they didn't think that - or they wouldn't have done it. To argue that doping isn't really doping because it confers no advantage requires a special kind of idiocy.

Coevett wrote:

voooo wrote:

Honesty? He doesn't mention the universal use of doping in Kenya, nor the Cheaterflies.

Careful or they will ban you. The only purpose of this site is to kill the dreams of every young non-East African athlete on Earth, while the GoogleAds revenue lines their pockets.

Hahahaha quite the victim mindset you have. Sack up and stop whining.

LoneStarXC wrote:

Armstronglivs wrote:

Oh, right - the same way a fraudster "augments" their account with someone else's money?

I like this. “No officer, I did not rob that bank. I was simply augmenting my own personal savings”. ?

You missed the point too.

Armstronglivs wrote:

talkin' talent wrote:

Depends if the fraudster made 95% on their own first.

No, it doesn't. Cheating remains cheating - whether it is done a lot or a little. Doping is cheating. If it wasn't it wouldn't be known as doping - it would be called something like, taking "nutritional supplements". But who would believe that all Ben Johnson and Lance Armstrong were doing was taking a few harmless nutritional supplements? For a start, they didn't think that - or they wouldn't have done it. To argue that doping isn't really doping because it confers no advantage requires a special kind of idiocy.

You missed the point yet again. That being that nobody runs fast times without first and foremost having the genetics to do so. Which is the primary reason the quote is being used.

rojo wrote:

I must give an A for honesty to the European marathon record holder. Training with Eliud Kipchoge can't hurt either.

I beg to differ Rojo - training with Kipchoge likely hurts...alot and often.

talkin' talent wrote:

Armstronglivs wrote:

No, it doesn't. Cheating remains cheating - whether it is done a lot or a little. Doping is cheating. If it wasn't it wouldn't be known as doping - it would be called something like, taking "nutritional supplements". But who would believe that all Ben Johnson and Lance Armstrong were doing was taking a few harmless nutritional supplements? For a start, they didn't think that - or they wouldn't have done it. To argue that doping isn't really doping because it confers no advantage requires a special kind of idiocy.

You missed the point yet again. That being that nobody runs fast times without first and foremost having the genetics to do so. Which is the primary reason the quote is being used.

That isn't the point. That's like saying no one runs fast without two legs. Doping improves on genetics. That is the point. And that is why there is a doping problem. Hope that's simple enough for you.