FCK OFF ROJO, THEY'RE KIDS. neither of them are even close to to OT standard, and touhey has one (1) off day in her entire high school career, and STILL WINS NXN, and suddenly she'll never make the olympics. LetsRun has had some stupid threads over the years, but this is possibly the worst one of all.
THEY ARE 17. LET THEM BE.
THIS THREAD MAKES ME UNREASONABLY ANGRY. I'M NOT A TOUHEY OR YOUNG FAN AND I JUST THINK THIS TOPIC IS ABSURD. THEY ARE NOT OLYMPIC HOPEFULS, THEY ARE MAYBE NCAA HOPEFULS.
Who is the better pro/Olympic prospect? Nico Young or Katelyn Tuohy? I think you've gotta say the answer is....
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FFF wrote:
malmo wrote:
dadsfadsfdasfdsafdas wrote:
Luv2Run wrote:
It seems the transition from high school to college to pros is far dicier for girls than guys.
Yes but it is also really dicey for guys also . Lets look at the NXN list
Go into more depth. Drill down to the complete results of all of those races. One thing you'll notice is how many of those names you've never heard of again. Here's an example:
https://www.flotrack.org/articles/5024397-nike-cross-nationals-boys-results-nxn-2011
I hate to agree with Malmo, but this response is absolutely correct.
In three years, we'll already have a dozen "is update" or "whatever happened to" threads on both.
Definitely. When I looked at this in the past, the top 5 at footlocker had a much better chance of being olympians for the men versus the woman but the odds weren't great for either. If you look at the complete list you will see a lot more names you recognize. For example look at the 2006 results https://www.footlockercc.com/history/2006boys.htm
1 Chad Hall WE CA 15:20
2 Craig Forys NE NJ 15:24
3 Steve Murdock NE NY 15:25
4 Hassan Mead MW MN 15:28
5 Matt Tebo WE NM 15:28
6 Benjamin Johnson WE NM 15:31
7 Michael Cybulski WE CA 15:31
8 Matthew Centrowitz NE MD 15:34
9 Girma Mecheso SO GA 15:34
10 Colby Lowe SO TX 15:35
11 Ben Hubers SO GA 15:36
12 Brandon Jarrett NE NJ 15:36
13 Russell Farnsworth WE ID 15:44
14 Jake Riley WE WA 15:45
15 Max O'Donoghue-McD. WE WA 15:46
16 Sintayehu Taye NE ME 15:50
17 Ryan Collins NE MA 15:52
18 Richard Medina MW CO 15:52
19 Mikel Thomas WE CA 15:55
20 Tommy Gruenewald NE NY 15:56
21 Donn Cabral NE CT 15:57
22 Jared Ward WE UT 16:02
23 Michael Spooner SO VA 16:03
24 Dan Chenoweth MW IL 16:06
25 Joseph Manilafasha MW CO 16:07
26 Ryan Hill SO NC 16:08
27 Anguel Tolev MW CO 16:09
28 Griffith Graves SO VA 16:11
29 Evan Appel MW CO 16:12
30 Duncan Phillips SO TX 16:18
31 Thomas Porter SO VA 16:19
32 De'Sean Turner MW IN 16:21
33 Elliott Heath MW MN 16:22
34 Kent Morikawa WE CA 16:25
35 Brian Rhodes-Devey NE NY 16:25
36 Luke Lovelace SO SC 16:27
37 Michael Anderson SO FL 16:29
38 Robert Moldovan MW IN 16:33
39 Paul Springer NE PA 17:33
40 Emil Heineking MW OH 17:48
Now some people where juniors but most of us can probably only recognize a half dozen names on that list. Same thing for girls.
There are not a lot of spots at the top of track and field, so a huge drop off isn't surprising. -
UkrainianHunk wrote:
rojo wrote:
FightFor15 wrote:
this post & this website suck.
I'm not going to apologize for analyzing the prospects of the top 2 HSers in the country. At Letsrun we celebrate the elite side of the sport and they are elite. If they don't want the scrutiny, then don't run the races. There is no mandate that they run in a free marketing event for Nike.
I didn't say Tuohy wasn't amazing. I've just consistently refused to join the hype train for the last 2+ years. After watching HS phenom after phenom not make it, after Mary Cain, I decided, "Enough is enough. I'm not going there again." People were going ga-ga over her and wondering why we weren't talking more about her. I was like, "Because she's a 15-16 year old HS girl." Now that she's come back to earth a little bit, people are mad that we even mention her.
But the reason why I came back here is I have an update from my original post.
The Tully Speed ratings for this year's race are out and Tully got a 163. In 2018, she won with a 167. In 2017, she won with a 172. Remember, each point is worth three seconds so that means that according to the Tully Speed Ratings, the Tuohy of 2017 would have beaten the Tuohy of 2019 by 27 seconds.
What about the conditions of the race? I heard the conditions were pretty bad this year. I also heard she gained some weight and muscle so she could be building up for shorter races. You're also blaming them for running, saying that if they don't want the scrutiny then don't run. That seems like what any self righteous jerk would say. A lot of the articles and discussions tend to get rude and disrespectful on this site. If anyone know a better site, feel free to share it with me since I'm done with this one.
I wish there was a better site for running news, but unfortunately there doesn't seem to be. It's a small industry, I guess. I agree that LetsRun is run in an incredibly unprofessional way, especially with Rojo. He comes off as incredibly annoying.
