• sub_3_is_the_goal
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      • RE: Chris Mocko 12/3/2019 10:11AM - in reply to Where is Mocko?
      • sub_3_is_the_goal
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      • He seemingly disappeared right after Western States and getting that pancake contract, no?

        Did he ever do a video with a WS race report?
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      • RE: Chris Mocko 12/3/2019 10:13AM - in reply to sub_3_is_the_goal
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      • Also a lot of these youtube runner personalities flake out. Jamil Coury had a great daily vlog for a long time and now barely produces any content at all. He has "films" that he has promised for years, like a WS video from 3 years ago that he hasn't finished. The Ginger Runner now does a Monday night podcast thing but hasn't made a real video in a long time.

        At least Sage and Demoor don't get distracted easily and flake out.
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      • RE: Chris Mocko 12/3/2019 10:28AM - in reply to sub_3_is_the_goal
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      • Jamil does his weekly mountain outpost. I'd say that's pretty good of him to do.

        Ginger runner has done 9 different vids in the last month. Also pretty good.

        It takes money and a team to make good quality and regular content.
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      • RE: Chris Mocko 12/3/2019 10:37AM - in reply to Rick Sanchez
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      • Rick Sanchez wrote:

        It takes money and a team to make good quality and regular content.

        Sage and Seth have teams?
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      • RE: Chris Mocko 12/3/2019 11:38AM - in reply to Where is Mocko?
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      • Mocko Show!!! I was wondering where he has gone to as well. I hope he is ok. A true ultra runner fan favorite.
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      • RE: Chris Mocko 12/3/2019 1:42PM - in reply to Where is Mocko?
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      • Where is Mocko? wrote:

        Where has Chris Mocko gone?

        I actually enjoyed his videos and thought he had a real genuine funny sense of humor. As he did more videos, racing, and opening up the last 2 years, some of my thoughts were always, is he okay?

        He quit his job in SF 3 years ago, went all in on training for WS and ultras, and seemingly after a year nearly went up in flames due to burn out. Got a job at twitter, life was better, and then quit twitter about a year in because the balance was too much, and now hasn't even done a status update for 3 months? I really don't know what to make of it.

        He had a great showing at WS, and won the Squamish 50. I hope all is well with him and he's just doing some recharging. I have to wonder though, when your job is making video content and racing, how does one just disappear?
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      • RE: Chris Mocko 12/3/2019 1:50PM - in reply to Where is Mocko?
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      • Most of the youtubers don't last that long.
        I guess creating content is a lot of work with not much reward except some likes.
        That gets old pretty quick I would think.
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      • RE: Chris Mocko 12/3/2019 2:21PM - in reply to Youtubbing
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      • As someone who has created my own running-related content on YouTube for over a decade now (granted some pretty low quality vids!) I'd say it's a lot like distance running in general with the sustainability.

        You have to have a geniune passion and real interest in it (videos) to want to do it long term. Much like distance running training and racing (which I've done for over 20 years now)...and I love it! I think a lot of people don't realize how much time it takes to record, edit, and upload videos on a regular basis (Even low quality ones like the ones I shoot!). I couldn't imagine doing all the "youtube stuff" if I had a traditional 9-5 job or had a kid...or even a dog to also take care of. In some ways you have to be quite selfish and self-absorbed (and even vain) to post VLOGs and stuff like I do....as well as other "content creators." I mean just look at Instagram culture in the influencer sphere. But I've always just liked videos/media and am addicted to social media.

        The Google Adsense money can be pretty good, but it certainly doesn't scale directly with subscriber count (watch time is also important). I recently got into launching some "Merch" which can add to the income of course (depending on the margins and scale) but for me (still sponsored to run trail-mountain-ultras as an actual job) its not going to be a huge time commitment or business investment.

        I'm still shooting most of my videos with a GoPro and an old cannon Rebel T5i. I see others nowadays with way more fancy SLRs/mirrorless cameras and editing with After Effects graphics etc. Time to step up my game! Okay, I'm going to practice a new music video intro now...

        Youtubbing wrote:

        Most of the youtubers don't last that long.
        I guess creating content is a lot of work with not much reward except some likes.
        That gets old pretty quick I would think.
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      • RE: Chris Mocko 12/3/2019 2:43PM - in reply to S. Canaday
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      • S. Canaday wrote:

        I think a lot of people don't realize how much time it takes to record, edit, and upload videos on a regular basis

        Oh, we know.
    • too bad
      • RE: Chris Mocko 12/3/2019 5:00PM - in reply to sub_3_is_the_goal
      • too bad
      • sub_3_is_the_goal wrote:

        Also a lot of these youtube runner personalities flake out. Jamil Coury had a great daily vlog for a long time and now barely produces any content at all. He has "films" that he has promised for years, like a WS video from 3 years ago that he hasn't finished. The Ginger Runner now does a Monday night podcast thing but hasn't made a real video in a long time.

        At least Sage and Demoor don't get distracted easily and flake out.

        I have a theory that Jamil got some flak for his race films because he spawned a lot of copy cats which I am sure a lot of people in the ultra community weren't cool with dudes running all over the course trying to be the next Run Steep Get High. I think thats why he hasnt released the WS film he kept promising. His vlogs maybe got too personal? IDK. Its too bad though because those films were amazing, I still go back and watch the TNF50 and Lake Sonoma ones from time to time.
    • too bad
      • RE: Chris Mocko 12/3/2019 5:02PM - in reply to too bad
      • too bad
      • Also, I personally liked his stuff with Schuyler the most. When he moved away a lot of his content was just not nearly as entertaining.