Why is Cheserek’s citizenship taking so long?

Melania is an illegal immigrant with chain immigration parents. Why isn't she the poster child example for cracking down on undesirables? She is the living example of everything that Trump says he is against.

When the Democrats regain control of the executive branch, will they put Melania in prison for breaking immigration laws, or will they just deport her and her parents?

Melania also got Donald to anoint citizenship to her sister. Horror of horrors, Melania, her sister, and her parents all speak to each other in Croatian. All help by Trump to citizenship, all living in the U.S., and all speaking a scary foreign language.

immigration afficonado wrote:

I think we’re all agreed wrote:

I don’t think proponents of legal immigration (the ones you label as illegal immigrant haters) claim that gaining legal immigration status is easy. There is high demand and limited supply. Not everyone will be approved. We want engineers and doctors and rocket scientists and supermodels. Not athletes.

To be clear, it is not illegal to be in the U.S. without an appropriate visa. It is illegal to enter the U.S. unlawfully, but there are hundreds of thousands, if not millions of immigrants in the U.S. who do not have "legal status" due to a change of immigration status (think a student visa expired, a tourist visa expired, etc). That does not make them illegal, however, under federal law.

Not legal = illegal

Nitpick wrote:

Not legal = illegal

Hmmm, making Trump guilty of numerous crimes. Thank you for the clarification.

What the what the wrote:

When the Democrats regain control of the executive branch, will they put Melania in prison for breaking immigration laws, or will they just deport her and her parents?

Neither, Politicians are better than holding grudges after a rival politician is out of offices or loses an election,

Nitpick wrote:

immigration afficonado wrote:

To be clear, it is not illegal to be in the U.S. without an appropriate visa. It is illegal to enter the U.S. unlawfully, but there are hundreds of thousands, if not millions of immigrants in the U.S. who do not have "legal status" due to a change of immigration status (think a student visa expired, a tourist visa expired, etc). That does not make them illegal, however, under federal law.

Not legal = illegal

Wrong. You can't provide a federal law that states it is illegal to be in the U.S. without official documentation.

With Lagat, there was also the prospect of Kenya protesting his citizenship transfer, which would require that he sit out of the Olympics. As it was, he had to sit out of the 2005 World Championships after switching allegiance following the Olympics of 2004. That meant that he missed the 2003 and 2005 World's, the former because of a positive A test, which was refuted by the more sophisticated B test but too late to compete when he was in his prime. Despite all that delay, he still won double Gold at World's the next time out in 2007 (in 2001, he won silver in the 1500m, about a half second behind El G, in 3:31.10).

immigration afficonado wrote:

Nitpick wrote:

Not legal = illegal

Wrong. You can't provide a federal law that states it is illegal to be in the U.S. without official documentation.

I don’t need to. But you or they need to provide law or proof that it’s okay for them to be here which of course you can’t. All you can rely on is corruption of bleeding heart liberal judges

jedi master yoda wrote:

What good does a supermodel do that a professional athlete doesn't? Beyond giving you someone new to think about when you touch yourself.

Have you seen the average American these days? We need to improve the quality of the gene pool.

sub sub elite local hobby jogger wrote:

jedi master yoda wrote:

What good does a supermodel do that a professional athlete doesn't? Beyond giving you someone new to think about when you touch yourself.

Have you seen the average American these days? We need to improve the quality of the gene pool.

Good one

Lickety Split wrote:

- Agree .... one would think that these guys would come over here to get their education & compete to later return to their homeland prepared to improve their fellow citizens lives. Now the East Africans simply turn their backs on their homeland & remain in the US thus draining the Kenyan talent pool .

- Cheserek's no exception ....

It is no different than Americans abandoning their $h**+y home towns after going to college.

Nitpick wrote:

immigration afficonado wrote:

Wrong. You can't provide a federal law that states it is illegal to be in the U.S. without official documentation.

I don’t need to. But you or they need to provide law or proof that it’s okay for them to be here which of course you can’t. All you can rely on is corruption of bleeding heart liberal judges

Hahaha. Next time you should just not post. There's no point in going the extra step of proving the extent of your ignorance.

Nitpick wrote:

immigration afficonado wrote:

To be clear, it is not illegal to be in the U.S. without an appropriate visa. It is illegal to enter the U.S. unlawfully, but there are hundreds of thousands, if not millions of immigrants in the U.S. who do not have "legal status" due to a change of immigration status (think a student visa expired, a tourist visa expired, etc). That does not make them illegal, however, under federal law.

Not legal = illegal

Entering the country unlawfully is a criminal offense. it is like driving a car without a valid licence.

Overstaying one's legal status is a civil offense. It's like getting a parking ticket.

Of course, I assume you have never got a parking ticket or any other traffic ticket in your life. You are such a perfect model citizen.

Kenyuh wrote:

Sounds like he’s about to just say f*** it and run for Kenya. Based on the comment he left on Mo’s post of “I’ll see you there Mo”.

Curious, can anyone confirm?

I imagine Kenya would select him, but perhaps not. He’s their 4th fastest over 5k at 13:04 and obviously has a nice kick.

Not up to him, unfortunately. On top of the usual suspects, there’s a new breed of teenage 5Kers like Edward Zakayo Pingua, Stanley Mburu Waithaka and Jacob Krop (who did very well at the worlds). And not forgetting the two guys who won the trials but didn’t make the team because they weren’t in the testing pool. Add in one or two more currently unknown breakouts and I say Cheserek would be lucky to finish top ten at the Kenyan trials. The only way he’s running Tokyo is for team USA.

TL;DR version - Cheserek is f***ed!

- Indeed for El "K" --- English is a 2nd Langauage (maybe).

Bubbadeeboos wrote:

Lickety Split wrote:

- Agree .... one would think that these guys would come over here to get their education & compete to later return to their homeland prepared to improve their fellow citizens lives. Now the East Africans simply turn their backs on their homeland & remain in the US thus draining the Kenyan talent pool .

- Cheserek's no exception ....

It is no different than Americans abandoning their $h**+y home towns after going to college.

- Folks in Amercia do not expect college students to return to their hometown. That's why many have local colleges & unversities to develop the local/regional workforce.

jedi master yoda wrote:

What good does a supermodel do that a professional athlete doesn't? Beyond giving you someone new to think about when you touch yourself.

Speak for yourself. Plenty would say that about Ches.