Official 2019 NCAA XC Discussion Thread - We'll be doing a live pre-race show starting at 10 am ET

Figs wrote:

Rosburger wrote:

Yes. They've been doing this since the 1880's. You bigots are just now able to able to vent your vitriol? What happened; run out of immigrants, racial minorities?

What are you talking about? I asked a question. Nowhere - NOWHERE - is my question is there a hint of being a bigot or venting about immigrants and racial minorities.

The point of my question is if BYU has been doing this for years and has such an advantage, then why haven’t they dominated and won more? Since this is their first championship, I don’t see how they have an advantage. So I’m not being a bigot at all.

Woops! Sorry. I completely misread your question, thinking it was one more attack on the BYU/Mormon people.

I've known over half a dozen people that have been on a mission trip. Every single one of them got exercise multiple times a week. You guys always try to pass it off as if they are bed-ridden for two years and it is intellectually dishonest and hurts your case.

pontl wrote:

I've known over half a dozen people that have been on a mission trip. Every single one of them got exercise multiple times a week. You guys always try to pass it off as if they are bed-ridden for two years and it is intellectually dishonest and hurts your case.

Nah, you’re wrong about everyone passing it off like their bed-ridden. Multiple folks have said they’re actually encouraged to exercise and allotted 30 mins every morning just for that. But the problem is, if your assigned companion doesn’t want to run, or isn’t a runner (maybe he was an NCAA OLmen, or has that kind of a body type), which is the case more often than not, then your 30 minutes of exercise turns into some push ups and sit ups. 30 minutes is hardly enough time to go to the gym and back.

Sorry dude but you don’t know what you’re talking about. Yeah you can exercise, but no way you’re running very much for those 2 years

Every single BYU thread on the boards has SEVERAL people saying that missions are a disadvantage because the missionaries "aren't able to run for two years". This is patently false, as I have many anecdotal cases that provide otherwise.

Unable to train like a college runner != not running for two years. It's intellectually dishonest to embellish it as such.

NCAA championships interactive results (tweak as desired):

Men:

https://cc-ease.firebaseapp.com/?id=xLx6ytZ7Cb1Kqhqfwy5F

Women:

https://cc-ease.firebaseapp.com/?id=7KTR9VkobdTDDN9L23Tn

Fun facts:

If Ratcliffe finishes in the top 56, Stanford finds itself on the podium. If he finishes anywhere from 8th to 22nd, Colorado takes second place.

Take out the seniors for next year and NAU returns:

#10, #16, #26, #31, #40 (some of the returners are from teams that may not qualify so point scoring would be even less) - Top 3 will all be sophomores.

Top Big Sky returner is not from NAU though, that honor goes to #6 sophomore Christian Allen of Weber State. He has a teammate and fellow sophomore Dillon Taylor who is the #36 returner. So NAU should have some good individuals to contend with in the Big Sky for the next couple of years.

After a 5th place finish, Tulsa could be really good again next year as they return a solid core with a potential Colorado-esque 1-2 punch with the #4 and #5 returners in the country.

Rosburger wrote:

Figs wrote:

What are you talking about? I asked a question. Nowhere - NOWHERE - is my question is there a hint of being a bigot or venting about immigrants and racial minorities.

The point of my question is if BYU has been doing this for years and has such an advantage, then why haven’t they dominated and won more? Since this is their first championship, I don’t see how they have an advantage. So I’m not being a bigot at all.

Woops! Sorry. I completely misread your question, thinking it was one more attack on the BYU/Mormon people.

All is good. Thanks for the apology. ??